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DawnP5 (Maryland)
Posts: 2
Posted:
There is a cluster mailbox unit in my community in Fort Washington, MD​ (​Rosedale Estates​) ​that is broken and is in need of repair or replacement. Apparently, the post office has deemed the mailbox irreparable and informed us that we are responsible for replacing it. I'd like to get a second opinion. It appears to me that the bottom of the pedestal is rusted which has caused the mailbox to no longer be secured.

Is anyone aware of a company that you'd recommend to inspect and provide support for this issue? We would like to have it addressed ASAP since mail delivery for some of our residents is affected. Thanks for your consideration.
BillH10 (Texas)
Posts: 1,217
Posted:
You, or your association, or whatever body is involved, is responsible for repairing/replacing the mailbox. There is no "second opinion" on this--it is not the responsibility of the Post Office, it is your responsibility.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Dawn,

Here is a link to the website of a company listed on the USPS website about cluster mailboxes, perhaps they can provide you some recommendations:

http://www.florencemailboxes.com/

Hope this helps,

Tim
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By DawnP5 on 12/10/2014 7:56 PM

Is anyone aware of a company that you'd recommend to inspect and provide support for this issue? We would like to have it addressed ASAP since mail delivery for some of our residents is affected.

Dawn,

You are not likely to find anyone who specializes in repairs like this as it is too uncommon for there to be specialists. If the problem is only with a rusted steel pedestal then I would look for someone who does mobile welding. In most places there are plenty of vendors. Look in the local Yellow Pages under welding.

Do not, however, expect a welder to come out and submit a bid so you can discuss it and compare it to two others at the next board meeting. My experience with hiring such a person was that he showed up ready to do the job, gave me a take-it-or-leave-it price, did the work, and gave me an invoice that he expected to be paid right there in cash.
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
I would agree with Larry to repair the problem if in fact the support is steel you would best be served by a welding service or steel fabrication shop.

My suggestion look in the yellow pages for steel shops or wrought iron railing shops and inquire if they can do on site
Repairs of this type.

It would helpful if you had the size, shape and length of the material that needed to be repaired.

One word of caution about welders, some are certified and hold specialty licenses for which you will pay dearly.

IMO for such a repair I would not see the need for such a specialist.

You need simply a man with a portable welding machine.

Ask them for a written estimate including their hourly rate.

Good luck.

DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
I'm surprised that the post office doesn't maintain your boxes. One of ours was damaged by a garbage truck, and the post office replaced it.

Since it does appear to be your responsibility, I would suggest trying to buy a replacement pedestal vs. trying to get yours welded up. I looked at the Florence web site, it looks like they charge between $180-$230 for pedestals. Here is an example:
http://www.florencemailboxes.com/store/product-detail.php?id=1081

They also offer a service where you can send a picture of the existing mailbox and they will try to identify the model so you could order the correct replacement (assuming it is one of their models).

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I do want to caution you on one thing. Remember you can NOT put anything in a mailbox without a stamp on it. It is a FEDERAL offense. So be careful how you notify and the postal regulations. You can't block your residents from getting the mail. So make sure to make arrangements with the postal service if you must remove the boxes for repairs.

We had some broken mailboxes too. It's not easy to find anyone anymore that makes these mailboxes. You can find the locks at a home depot but the box itself not so easy. Good luck!

Former HOA President
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Quote:
Posted By MelissaP1 on 12/11/2014 7:54 AM

It is a FEDERAL offense.

So is removing the tag from your mattress. Surrender yourself and save the taxpayers some money.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Believe me... Some mail carriers do not take this lightly... There are a thing called Postal Inspectors... They do not play as a few people found out...

Former HOA President
DawnP5 (Maryland)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Hello and thanks for your response. In the past, we were informed through our property management company that USPS maintained cluster mailboxes. I have also done research and have confirmed that USPS does generally maintain cluster mailboxes, however, it is up to their discretion. I am actually in the process of escalating this matter to the USPS's Consumer Affairs Division. Unfortunately, we received a response from the local branch that the mailbox was irreparable, however, Consumer Affairs has come to the conclusion it can be repaired. I have let USPS know that I am not happy with the way this matter has been handled so we'll see what the conclusion is.

Thanks for the tip about possibly replacing the pedestal instead of getting it welded.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
You've received nice advice form Larry & Jon, Dawn!

WE too have a cluster mailbox system that's outside our building (we have many more inside). Anyhoo, we do have them on our reserves schedule. You may want to think about that if you have a lot of them.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
As I understand it:

The Postal Operations Manual governs all USPS operations and procedures. In April of 2012, the USPS updated the Postal Operations Manual with specific revisions regarding mail delivery and mail receptacles (mailboxes). In revised section 632.1, the Manual states that the “purchase, installation, and maintenance of mail receptacles are the responsibility of the customer.” Based on 632.1, it appears that the mail customer must purchase, install and maintain their own mailboxes.

Not so fast. Revised section 632.12 of the Manual provides that, “the Postal Service may elect, under certain conditions, to purchase, install, and maintain curb-mounted mail receptacles or cluster box units.”

Bottom line is there is no black or white answer. You should contact your local postmaster to find out who is responsible for your cluster mailboxes. My bet is that 99.99% of the time it will always be the owners responsibility.

NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Even though the work and cost is on you, you will still need USPS approval to have the work done. Or at least that's the way it works in our neck of the woods. We ask contractor to get signoff from USPS.

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
MarkM31 (Washington)
Posts: 556
Posted:
Figure out the model and order a new pedestal.
RonW7 (Ohio)
Posts: 122
Posted:
Had something like this happen to us this past winter. Plow took out one of our CBUs twice. The first time, they snapped it right off the aluminum base. The second time it was taken down because the welding job I paid for didn't hold up.

Our township has a "public works" department and they repaired it for free by installing an entirely new base and even bolting it down to the concrete.

Also, if you have to replace your CBU, those things are expensive at anywhere between $900-$1100.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
"CUTLER-HAMMER" makes many of the CBUs and the OPLs in present day service.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
oops - sorry - 'brain freeze' - disregard cutler-hammer reference
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
check out:

Cutler FEDERAL

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