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AngelaM8 (Missouri)
Posts: 2
Posted:
We have bought the remaining 20 lots of a subdivision that the developer went bankrupt on. There were restrictions but they were never recorded. We would like to make a few changes and use those same restrictions. Is this possible? What is the first step? Call a meeting to discuss with current property owners in the subdivision?
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Angela

I am not nor do I play a lawyer.

Did you purchase the Declarant's rights or just the last 20 home sites? Major difference in what can be and how things can be done.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Angela,

If I were you, my fist step would be to have a meeting with an attorney.

As John pointed out, did the Declarant rights transfer to you or are you simply an owner?

If the restrictions were never recorded, were they recorded on the lots of other members? If not, you can't force them to accept them now - they may or may not agree to them, but you can't force them.

Like I said, my first step would be a consultation with an attorney to find out what I really purchased and what my rights are. Also, since the recordation of deed restrictions are being questioned, what rights other property owners in the development have.
FredS7 (Arizona)
Posts: 927
Posted:
> If I were you, my fist step would be to have a meeting with an attorney.

It would be my FIRST step.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Thanks Fred.

Hopefully Larry doesn't see it

This was caused by not pressing down hard on the "r" key and failing to reread the post prior to submitting. It was not caused by spell check or auto completion. Simple human error caused it to happen.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
It should be Angela's VERY first step!
AngelaM8 (Missouri)
Posts: 2
Posted:
I have my attorney looking it over currently. I was just researching for myself as it is taking some time to hear back from my attorney. . I did see that the restrictions were filed but there was never an hoa set up and no assessment fees were ever collected from what I understand.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
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Posted By AngelaM8 on 12/08/2014 3:57 PM

I did see that the restrictions were filed but there was never an hoa set up and no assessment fees were ever collected from what I understand.

Ahh, so your earlier statement that the restrictions were never recorded was in error.

In that case, the issue would be were the Declarant rights transferred to you as well, or are you simply an owner?

If you are the Declarant, it's your responsibility to run the Association or turn it over to the members to run.

If you are simply an owner (granted one who may have control of the votes), then your attorney would be the best one to advise you on how to call a meeting and create an active Association (vs. the inactive one you have now).
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Twenty out of how many lots? Twenty lots in a 21-lot subdivision would make you a big fish in a little pond. Twenty lots out of 1,000 gives you very little clout.

Since it appears that restrictions were recorded and most likely apply to your 20 lots the amount of leverage you have will determine whether you can make the changes in restrictions you want. This assumes you still want to make changes. Restrictions can usually be amended by some percentage of lot owners and depending on the overall number of lots you may have sufficient power by yourself to make changes.

The fact that the developer failed to incorporate the HOA is not fatal. If the restrictions require owners to be members of an association then anyone may file Articles of Incorporation to establish the association. The first order of business is usually to call for a meeting to vote for a board of directors, who will run the association afterwards.

JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Hi Angela:

Some of your questions will depend upon your State statutes and your governing documents.

In my state the developer must declare what is to be constructed and must reserve the right to make changes desired. If the developer wants to change items not reserved as having the right to change then they must obtain 67% of owners other than the developer to agree to said change.

You have not stated what you would like to change, but you need to keep in mind that individuals and their secured creditors have invested large sums of money based upon what has already been implied and expressed. In many states it is illegal to defraud consumers and secured creditors with regards to collateral attached to a security agreement. Which means in essence changes should not in any way devalue the collateral attached to any security agreement.

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