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EvelynS (Texas)
Posts: 11
Posted:
Live in a rural HOA, in our restrictions it states "No outbuilding or garage, other than a boathouse, shall be erected on any lot before a residence is constructed thereon, and no outbuilding, boathouse, basement or garage erected on any lot shall at any time be used as a dwelling, temporary or permanently. . . "

I read this as none of these items can be built without a residence on the same property.

We have people who are purchasing lots to build just a storage building, they have a house in the subdivision but not next to the property. Some have property across the street.

I'm asking--based on the wording above is it legal for them to allow storage buildings to be built if there's not a house on the same property? I don't want this allowed in our community, I know past boards have allowed it, but don't think we should continue to allow this.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
You believe your contract is being violated.

(from your posted wording I agree)

You are free to take appropriate legal action.

Why ask on the www ?
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
With JohnB, the wording seems to say exactly what your think it does. What do your restrictions say happens to those who violate this??

The question is: What will you do about violations of this restriction?

You can write to board and ask that they permit no further violations.

You can gather likeminded folks and all of you go to a board meeting together to ask the board to halt any further construction.

Or ask the Board to remove those that have been erected in the past xx years.

If the Board shows no tendency to cooperate, vote them out of office or recall them.

As you can see all of the above takes action on your part in concert with others. You need to unify. If you don't think you're the "leader type," find someone who is.

You can see an attorney for legal advice.

DaveD3 (Michigan)
Posts: 796
Posted:
Read your documents. You probably have the right to seek enforcement of the covenants via court order should the board fail to do so.

Approach the board.
If the board fails to correct the situation, contact an attorney
With said attorney's assistance, file for an injunction (or whatever your courts issue) to enforce the rules against the offending owners.
Atty might also name the board in the lawsuit as well
EvelynS (Texas)
Posts: 11
Posted:
Thank you'll so much---I just needed to be sure I was reading the covenant's right! I was at a board meeting last weekend and told them that's what I thought it said and they argued with me. And yes, I may take them to court if they allow the individual to build. I'm very distraught as I believe it will be the downfall of our community if they continue to allow it to occur. Past boards have allowed it but the building's were up before I even knew that they were there and it was years ago.
EvelynS (Texas)
Posts: 11
Posted:
Just wanted to be sure that I was interpreting it correctly. Appreciate the feedback.
RayC4 (Virginia)
Posts: 173
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By EvelynS on 11/11/2014 8:19 AM
told them that's what I thought it said and they argued with me.

Just curious, what did the Board members say that it said?
BobD4 (up north)
Posts: 1,002
Posted:
You mentioned past - ? ignored ? - violations. If the Board & its predecessors have been acquiescing or "sleeping on" their enforcement rights they may be getting told by counsel that the courts may be reluctant to action. It is not acquiescence nor laches nor unfair selective discrimination when the sole state trooper is merrily ticketing a speeder while others roar by. But if the trooper gives his crony a pass . . .
BobD4 (up north)
Posts: 1,002
Posted:
and along with the above question of the Board's stated rationale, what sort of "storage building" is objectionable and how is such defined in the CCRs if any ? The good old question : talking quonset huts . . tractor drive sheds . . . tents . . igloos . . gypsy caravans . . ?
EvelynS (Texas)
Posts: 11
Posted:
Ok, so we had a Meeting last weekend. At that time I told the board that I had heard that one of my neighbor's who purchase the lot across the street was going to build a Storage Building/Garage. I told them that our Restrictions state we are a "residential community" and that I knew in the restrictions, didn't have them in front of me at the time, said something to the affect that no Storage building, Garage may be built before the House" their take on it was that the guy has several houses, this is just across the street. I said to them, but if you allow this, others will purchase lots (there's a lot that are for sale really cheap, less than $200 per a lot size 50 x 100) that own property in the neighborhood and we'll look more like a storage building community than a residential community. The President's take was as long as what they build looks nice who cares. Well I DO--and actually there were a few other board members who were shaking their heads as "yes" to me when I mentioned that I didn't want my community to become a "Storage Building/Garage Community" a few Amen's. But the problem is that our Restrictions don't even state that the board provides the building permit's it's the "Architectural Committee" which our POA President is also on, thus the reason I brought it up at the Board meeting. I'm getting ready now to send an email to the board, as I have gotten the opinion from an Attorney and all of you'll that I understand the covenant correctly that NO Garage, Storage Building shall be built on a lot without a house.

I'm also thinking about putting a letter to the individual door who is telling everyone that they are going to build a Garage with a copy of the restrictions and Section 9 highlighted along with who I am if he want's to have a conversation about it. They only come down on the weekends. They have been purchasing lots all around them because they want to tear everything down and build a huge one story house--which I'm fine with and since they own conjoined lots on the waterfront, then they should build their "garage/storage" building there!
EvelynS (Texas)
Posts: 11
Posted:
POA President said that they understood that rule to state as long as they owned property it didn't matter that it was across the street. Besides, he said, it would be better to have a nice garage than something ugly. I said, that makes no sense because there's NOTHING there but tree's now. The individual has already cut all the trees down. The president swears that he hasn't issued a building permit. I suspect that he's telling the individuals just go ahead and build there's nothing anyone can do about it if you do. The subdivision is in the County and there are no county rules to this affect. If we were in the City I believe something could be done, but this guy has plenty of money ( the one wanting to build the Garage/Stoarge building) and would break my bank if I went to an attorney to try and get this stopped.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Evelyn,

Court opinions (common law) hold that if an owner is aware of a restriction before he begins building and knowingly violates it then he does so at his own peril. Send the owner a letter by certified mail stating that you believe he intends to build a structure that violates the restrictions and then cite the restrictions. Demand that he cease construction or you will take him to court. This will prevent him from claiming ignorance of the restrictions or that you acquiesced to his violations.

BTW, the BOD of an HOA usually has no authority to waive restrictions set forth in the CC&R's. In a court of law, the opinion of an officer or board member has zero weight.

JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JohnB26 on 11/10/2014 12:40 PM
You believe your contract is being violated.

(from your posted wording I agree)

You are free to take appropriate legal action.

Why ask on the www ?

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