What is the term for your community's marketing/popular designation ?

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BobD4 (up north)
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( A pre-emptive domain registration by a dissenter, has channelled a lot of internet searching toward that dissenter's kvetching social media sites. This individual is a highly skilled "reputation manager" with university degrees in English & S**T-slinging, but unfortunately not in property law. Legal counter-attacks have not yet shut down that individual's very impressive sites & blogs using that term. And maybe they should not. But it looks like lawyers or subscribers have been able to quickly shut down local news reports that reached the giant site www.communityassociatios.net )

So the question is :

What is your state's or local term for your community ?

I am asking NOT about the titles office/ registered legal name like TSCC # 1967. I am asking about marketing label or project name that may appear on roadside signage, sometimes in bizarre counterpart to toxic wars underway eg "All is Blissful Glen" , "Dancing in Perfect Harmony Shangri-La", or "Beulahland Heights".

All replies or suggested labels for that term, are much appreciated.

BobD4 (up north)
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( erratum : Sorry; the giant US/ hemisphere wide site is www.communityassociations.net)

Don't want to deflect from anyone's much appreciated input/suggestion for the "community label "term. The social media jihadist/ reputation warrior's story may get posted at some future time if anyone cares. That single ex-occupant has created multiple sophisticated, literate domains with quick top search responses when anyone launches searches of the term.

It is unclear how protected may/may not have been the intellectual property rights if at all. The targets of her attack may be much unhappy.

One of her many photos is ( unintentionally ?) zany, showing a fey-looking male answering a service call and brandishing an enormous plumbing wrench tightly to his chest. The condo unit door is shown opened by a nightgown-clad, not unattractive (? young senior ) respectable looking lady beyond 35 but with a stairway at the fringe of the photo ! NO This ain't about any sexual assault, but the word "brandishing" from FLA gun law also evokes old time porno sites . . . Believe me, the tradesman better not have any ideas about what he is "brandishing" at this service call into the Twilight Zone . . )

Any suggestions for the 'community name" ?

TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By BobD4 on 11/08/2014 6:03 AM

So the question is :

What is your state's or local term for your community ?

It's how we incorporated. It's also the name of our subdivision. It's also the name of our Association.

Please be aware that posting rules do not allow the mentioning of Association names.

To be honest, I'm not really sure what you are asking for.
Are you asking what name to call your Association to counter the attacks?
Are you asking how to be listed better in internet searches?
Are you asking how to deal with a disgruntled member?

KerryL1 (California)
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Like Tim, we use the catchy, shortened version of the name in our Articles. Realtors sometimes use that one word, plus two hyphenated words after it, which are a part of our longer name and designate our neighborhood.

We are an owners association which is the end of our legal name, but we don't use that phrase except in contracts & other legal documents and matters.

BobD4 (up north)
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"I am asking not about the titles office/ registered legal name like TSCC # 1967. I am asking about marketing label or project name that may appear on roadside signage, sometimes in bizarre counterpart to toxic wars underway eg "All is Blissful Glen" , "Dancing in Perfect Harmony Shangri-La", or "Beulahland Heights"."

Sorry if I failed to make this clear enough.

What noun do you think could best be applied to the fictional examples shown above ( "All is Blissful Glen" , "Dancing in Perfect Harmony Shangri-La", or "Beulahland Heights".") ?

For example are these fictional three a "veranacular title" or "common usage title" if different from a title-office designation or statutory registration number such as Toronto Standard Condominium Corporation # xxxx ? Every legislated template I have encountered - like a genuine condominium corporation - is assigned (during titles office registration) a unique numerical designator. Our jurisdiction's condominium register in each land titles district happens to be called the "Condominium Corporations Index"/ Registre des condominiums. In common usage however many owners, realtors & prospective buyers do not describe their community by such formal number or incorporations act number.

Some communities or their original developer long before approvals, may have been assigned and always self-declare a single designation like the fictional above, or some hybrid of law & geography such as the fictional "Cripple Creek Trust". And where there is no HOA law the jurisdiction may never have assigned any numeric designators at all if unincorporated.

Whatever the popular label is best described as being, a social media reputation warrior has managed to pre-emptively register domain names that successfully route high response internet searches to her kvetching website & blog. With effectiveness not totally clear yet, she's whacking her tormentors online and trying to incite wider consumer unrest in the whole jurisdiction for downtrodden non-owner residents ( Think : John Brown & Harper's Ferry etc). Her targets & their lawyer might describe her as a community stalker.

Whatever the case, does your community or state apply a particular noun or label onto such as the fictional three above ? "The name that is not incorporated" ? "vernacular usage name " ? "local custom name" ?

All replies - including or not suggested labels for that term - are much appreciated.

GeorgeR8 (Arizona)
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I'm not sure what you are asking. I have never seen an HOA without a common name, condo or stand alone houses.

Our legal name minus Condominium Association Inc is used and is on the sign.

It is the name of the 2 streets that border our development.

If you go to our county site you type in BLANK BLANK Condominium Association Inc our docs come up.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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George

I am not sure what the OP exactly meant but there are many cases of dissenting owner(s) hijacking an Internet name like creating a site named JohnSmithHOAowners.com versus the HOA named site of JohnSmithHOA.com. thus when someone searches JohnSmith HOA they may well get a hit on both sites. Some sites are even closer in name thus creating more confusion.

There have been court cases on like/similar/cloned, etc. Internet site names.

BobD4 (up north)
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Greatly appreciating input.

Many communities receive legal registration names that do not end up at curbside. Whatever the formal name assignment spits out, in some jurisdiction it cannot be something like "All is Bliss Heights" or "An-hedisonism Glen". It may be a formula like "York Region Standard Condominium # XXX " or Strata Plan XXXXXX etc .

Reputation managers" instead would be wasting their reputation attack if other than on what is on public view at curbside, maybe even displaying internet photos of the entrance or curbside area.

( One intellectual property lawyer has warned that "Many condominium corporations use the trade name, logo and/or slogans of their condominium site that was originally marketed by the developer. Whether the use is on a sign, newsletter or website, the right to use that name, logo or slogan is governed by trademark law." )

Problem is does anyone know what is the NOUN describing what appears at curbside ?

Eg Chevrolet is a car. BMW is a car. . . .

Suggestions are appreciated.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By BobD4 on 11/13/2014 7:27 PM

Many communities receive legal registration names that do not end up at curbside.

I have never seen this. Perhaps it's something unique to Canada.

BobD4 (up north)
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"I have never seen this. Perhaps it's something unique to Canada."

How widespread or rare is impossible to detail without data. 4 of the 7 condo communities I managed for a while in semi-retirement, used a curbside extra-legal marketing term at curbside instead of the humdrum, registered legal name.

But long before issuance of a formal registration name, a developer may have chosen - and even trademarked or copyrighted - a marketing label that may stick around in curbside signs for a long time. ( Do some have the chutzpah to ransom it back to the former customers along with the supers' suites, elevators, building systems etc ? )

Whatever it is widely called, that extra-legal term may help sell in contrast with some of the shenanigans that go on.

Of course some such actually may be the GENUINE legal, registered name of a non-condo HOA : eg the bizarre "Happy Hide-A –Way Civic Club" which used a grass-cutting & debris clean-up by-law to demolish a private home and send an $80K invoice to the victims ( defended successfully at trial but struck down by 2nd Texas Court of Appeals (
Evans v Casey Davis & Happy Hide-A-way Civic Club Inc. Decision of 14th District Texas Court of Appeals # 14-12-01053-CV Nov 19/13 http://statecasefiles.justia.com/documents/texas/fourteenth-court-of-appeals/14-12-01053-cv.pdf?ts=1384858347 )

The "reputation jihadist" (above) is no dummy. Well-prepared & much experienced she may have detected a very vulnerable unprotected zone - her ex-tormentors' extralegal curbside term that includes the Spanish noun for 'mountain'.

On very professional looking multiple domains, she is expressly and specifically targetting that term along with curbside photos to torture her former tormenters. The internet may have a fickle attention span, but stuff hangs around a long time. She has boasted how high her kvetching sites are returned during any public internet search.

Just don't know and never much thought about what that correct noun is. Suggestions are appreciated.

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