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NicoleO1 (California)
Posts: 181
Posted:
Recently one of our offsite owners moved back to our complex. She lived her years prior and has a history of not necessarily being the most problematic individual, but has been called to a few special hearings, fined for lack of response to correction letters, most recently was caught using our facilities while she had a tenant here etc, and she currently has pre lien papers being filed for back dues. She does have a bit of a history having challenges living in a condo as some do.

That is not the issue but the background I feel is necessary. With moving in she has a child about 6-7 buy our guess that seems to be kinda left unsupervised. This little child is extremely polite, but honestly something isn't clicking right. The board members have witnessed slightly unusual things that may not be breaking rules, but raise a concern for the child's safety. The little one has been seen riding their bike on our street alone, that may not sound scary but if you did a search online of sexual predators in our area, you'd reel your child in real quick. The same little one was asked not to ride in our sub-terrain parking garage by a resident ( security gates are in place ) but when asked where is your mom, she said upstairs. ( 4 flights up )

Yesterday I left our building noting a little kid sitting our grass area ( where most of the resident pets urinate) in front of the building with a bike. I came back 2 hours later and the same child was sitting there talking to unrecognizable people. This child was id'd as belonging to our return owner. One board member and thier friends saw them riding on the street with no parent near by. When asked where is your mom.. oh upstairs, don't worry, I have a key to the building.

The other day heard a boom outside my unit, like someone fell, It was this little child riding her bike on our 4th floor walkway. They had fallen.. its the collaboration of our buildings board members that have brought this concern together.

While no real rules have been broken with the exception of riding a bike on our catwalk, we are very concerned about the well being of this unattended child. Our city isn't necessarily the safest area, we have known sexual predators who live locally, it's a google search away, and the fact they are left to ride thier bike without a helmet even.. greatly concerns us. But really what can we do?

Some individuals just don't have common sense , we get that, but the safety of this little one is at risk, and it's been brought up by more than a few residents here.
RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 1,767
Posted:
Child Protective Services
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
The HOA does NOT call protective services.

YOU, AS A RESPOSIBLE CONCERNED ADULT CALL THE APROPRIATE PROTECTIVE AGENCY

I assume that the appropriate agency has ALREADY been contacted since you are concerned enough to ask for advice.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
SHEEEEZ
NicoleO1 (California)
Posts: 181
Posted:
I wouldnt call CPS as the HOA, but as a responsible adult, which to my knowledge has been done.

Short of someone riding a bike in the walkway, though I do not suspect there is any thing else the HOA can do... or am I wrong??
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Nicole,

I think the question would be, would you be as concerned if the child wasn't the child of the individual you mentioned. I ask this because all the background you gave really wasn't necessary to ask a question if the HOA should become involved in parenting the child or not.

I echo what others on here have said. If you truly believe this child, or any child, is in danger, then you, not in the capacity of a Board member but as an individual citizen, should contact child protective services.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
DOH
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Nicole,

I would suggest that you call CPS but do not do so anonymously.

The problem with an anonymous call is that there is no witness, so unless the investigator just happens to drive up when the kid is unsupervised in a dangerous situation, he/she has nothing to rely on except the statements of the mother and possibly the child. So if the investigator sees nothing and the mother admits nothing and there is no witness to say otherwise, the case is closed.

NicoleO1 (California)
Posts: 181
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Posted By JohnB26 on 08/18/2014 12:30 PM
DOH

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I'm sure I'll come off as insensitive to the well-being of the child who is 6 ? 8 ?.

The fact is that Nicole has been complaining about the mother for at least a year now disguised as different "problems" usually involving the pool. Now that the mother/owner has moved back in, Nicole really is upset. Does Nicole really care about this chid?

Just want to give background for those who want to pursue this and review Nicole's old posts.

CyrstalB (Maryland)
Posts: 457
Posted:
Even if the OP has something against the child's parent, depending on the age of the child, they have an obligation to report an unsupervised child. Period. Having said that, CPS most likely does not take anonymous "reports".

A similar incident with a child riding his four wheeler alone had a board member volunteer as a neighbor to go talk to the parents to share concerns of his (childs) and his (owners) safety. The cops could of been called etc, but just an old fashioned I'm concerned for all conversation.
NicoleO1 (California)
Posts: 181
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Posted By KerryL1 on 08/18/2014 10:59 PM
I'm sure I'll come off as insensitive to the well-being of the child who is 6 ? 8 ?.

The fact is that Nicole has been complaining about the mother for at least a year now disguised as different "problems" usually involving the pool. Now that the mother/owner has moved back in, Nicole really is upset. Does Nicole really care about this chid?

Just want to give background for those who want to pursue this and review Nicole's old posts.


I am surprised you have this kind of time on your hands..... seriously.

I am not sure what your accusations are, but any or all problems are not this one individual at all. SO what if I posted about her, the guy down the hall or another resident. The matters are real, and while I appreciate your attention to me, and my matters, your attempt to "call me out" is really quite bizarre. CPS was indeed called, no anonymous reports. It is now an open case..... to be followed up upon by the appropriate authorities.
NicoleO1 (California)
Posts: 181
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By KerryL1 on 08/18/2014 10:59 PM
I'm sure I'll come off as insensitive to the well-being of the child who is 6 ? 8 ?.

The fact is that Nicole has been complaining about the mother for at least a year now disguised as different "problems" usually involving the pool. Now that the mother/owner has moved back in, Nicole really is upset. Does Nicole really care about this chid?

Just want to give background for those who want to pursue this and review Nicole's old posts.


I am surprised you have this kind of time on your hands..... seriously.

I am not sure what your accusations are, but any or all problems are not this one individual at all. SO what if I posted about her, the guy down the hall or another resident. The matters are real, and while I appreciate your attention to me, and my matters, your attempt to "call me out" is really quite bizarre. CPS was indeed called, no anonymous reports. It is now an open case..... to be followed up upon by the appropriate authorities.
NicoleO1 (California)
Posts: 181
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By KerryL1 on 08/18/2014 10:59 PM
I'm sure I'll come off as insensitive to the well-being of the child who is 6 ? 8 ?.

The fact is that Nicole has been complaining about the mother for at least a year now disguised as different "problems" usually involving the pool. Now that the mother/owner has moved back in, Nicole really is upset. Does Nicole really care about this chid?

Just want to give background for those who want to pursue this and review Nicole's old posts.


I am surprised you have this kind of time on your hands..... seriously.

I am not sure what your accusations are, but any or all problems are not this one individual at all. SO what if I posted about her, the guy down the hall or another resident. The matters are real, and while I appreciate your attention to me, and my matters, your attempt to "call me out" is really quite bizarre. CPS was indeed called, no anonymous reports. It is now an open case..... to be followed up upon by the appropriate authorities.
RwT (Florida)
Posts: 154
Posted:
People are people.

Passing judgement on others is just human nature.

Some have learned or are able to move past it, others.......

I am also fascinated by those who [must] review past postings to develop some sort of profile of a poster and then feel the need to share their obsession, I mean findings.

* Non-Lawyer spokesperson.
NicoleO1 (California)
Posts: 181
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Posted By RwT on 08/21/2014 5:44 AM
People are people.

Passing judgement on others is just human nature.

Some have learned or are able to move past it, others.......

I am also fascinated by those who [must] review past postings to develop some sort of profile of a poster and then feel the need to share their obsession, I mean findings.

Thanks Rob... I think I have a fan.. here. I had no IDEA that my 75 past posts are worth reading. I should start a BLOG! LOL
ON a serious note, I am not the only one who has notified CPS, so there is indeed an open case here. Some of our owners are mandated reporters due to the nature of their work.
There is validity in numbers.. and we have more than a few tenants who have voiced concern. There have been some basic rules broken here regarding play areas, but the HOA at this time has stepped down from sending a letter and will assess the situation. This owner has her hands full at the moment.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Had no need to spend my time to look up anything of Nicole's--while not a photographic memory, if there even is such a word, i have a very good memory of things I read.

At the moment I'm grappling with our operating budget & reserves data to prepare for '15.
NicoleO1 (California)
Posts: 181
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Posted By KerryL1 on 08/21/2014 11:08 AM
Had no need to spend my time to look up anything of Nicole's--while not a photographic memory, if there even is such a word, i have a very good memory of things I read.

At the moment I'm grappling with our operating budget & reserves data to prepare for '15.

Photographic memory is indeed commonly used term, but often it is confused with eidetic memory.. Edietic memory is the ability to recall images with vividness, as to be real. Photographic memory can discern the difference.....
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,001
Posted:
There is validity in numbers..


As in mob rule..

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