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JoseV2 (Florida)
Posts: 19
Posted:
Just a few weeks ago, I organized a community walk awareness of our common areas. The homes owners were outraged when they witness for themselves the deplorable conditions of our common areas, from dead trees, hedges, lack of irrigation, no mulch in the common areas etc. As a result, the management company got a hold of her attorney and blatantly accused me of "illegal acts of harassment and staking, using profanity, stating false statements of facts." Also, "That contacting the management company constitutes harassment and defamation." "The board and attorney have instructed the management company to completely ignore and avoid me. Also, the management company is concern for the personal safety of herself and her staff.

This all stems from gathering a group of homeowners to see for themselves the lack of representation we are getting from this management company. As a result they are trying to suppress y freedom of speech. I don't use profanity, especially, when conducting community issues. I have tried to contact the management company because the HOA, will not return email nor phone calls. In addition, they have been in recess for 3 months. The very next day after the community walk I called the management company and got no reply. Called a second time, this time I was able to get a hold of a staff member and pretty much pleaded with her that she conveys to the manager that I am trying to communicate with her in hopes of walking around our common areas and community.

As a result, instead of helping us resolve the issues I get a letter from her attorney, go figure. The HOA should not have taken sides but should of have contacted me to get the facts, and for her to produce evidence of her accusations. But instead voted on her behave.

At this point I feel that my persona has be trashed with blatant lies, as a consequence of my actions to speak to the members of our community.

Some feed back would help................................
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Well . . . for starters, have you contacted your board of Directors in writing to politely request improvements to your common areas? Perhaps you and some other interested Owners could volunteer to start some clean-up projects to get the ball rolling?

And are you saying your Board hasn't met in three months? How often are they supposed to meet (probably in your bylaws.)
GeorgeR8 (Arizona)
Posts: 182
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Posted By KerryL1 on 08/17/2014 6:28 PM
Well . . . for starters, have you contacted your board of Directors in writing to politely request improvements to your common areas? Perhaps you and some other interested Owners could volunteer to start some clean-up projects to get the ball rolling?

And are you saying your Board hasn't met in three months? How often are they supposed to meet (probably in your bylaws.)

Why should they volunteer to do something that they are paying for?

It sounds like they are not maintaining what they have. That wouldn't be improvements.

I hold monthly board meetings just so people have a chance to bring up whatever they want.

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
There are others on this site with better knowledge of Florida law than I have, but in most states homeowners can call for a special meeting for a specific purpose. Since you now have some members in your corner, I would call for such a special meeting for the purpose of terminating the contract with the management company.

Any contract can be terminated for cause. A hostile relationship is cause as it is legally impossible to have a meeting of the minds when one party accuses the other of criminal acts against him/her. In this case, you have a management company not only threatening a homeowner but also claiming that merely contacting the management company "constitutes harassment and defamation."

Since your own BOD has been as equally hostile towards the homeowners as the management company, it may be time to organize a recall of the entire board.

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Jose it's easy to blame the MC but at the end of the day the MC reports to and follows the directions of the Board of directors. This is where it seems the problem lies and maybe its time to recall them and replace them with volunteers willing to do the job. But first and this is very important, what do you know of the financial health of your HOA? The Board may be shirking their duties OR and this is a big OR they may not have the funds to do anything because a large percentage of your fellow homeowners are delinquent in their assessments. I'm also not an expert on FL weather or horticulture but it may simply be the wrong time of year to be replacing dead or dying plants, something else you should consider.

But my major concern if I were you would be the Board who has taken three months off!

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
NicoleO1 (California)
Posts: 181
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Posted By GlenL on 08/18/2014 1:14 AM
Jose it's easy to blame the MC but at the end of the day the MC reports to and follows the directions of the Board of directors. This is where it seems the problem lies and maybe its time to recall them and replace them with volunteers willing to do the job. But first and this is very important, what do you know of the financial health of your HOA? The Board may be shirking their duties OR and this is a big OR they may not have the funds to do anything because a large percentage of your fellow homeowners are delinquent in their assessments. I'm also not an expert on FL weather or horticulture but it may simply be the wrong time of year to be replacing dead or dying plants, something else you should consider.

But my major concern if I were you would be the Board who has taken three months off!

Glen is 150% correct....
JoseV2 (Florida)
Posts: 19
Posted:
Thanks for responding to my subject: Yes, we have addressed the issues of our common areas for several years now to a point where I organized a "common area walk awareness." We had a great turnout and as a result the Board went into action and address the problem. But within a couple of months it's business as usual. In the mean time, dead hedges and trees have not be replaced, mulch or proper irrigation system installed. However, they do cut, trim & irrigate an area that belongs to the county but yet neglect our common areas, go figure. The Board been on resess for three months in the mean time this place looks pathetic. They meet once a month. Right after the elections, which will be held in Oct, they take Nov. & Dec off as well.
JoseV2 (Florida)
Posts: 19
Posted:
When the new MC was hire, I addressed all the ill of the previous Board and MC (the MC was fired for incompetency) their reply was "lets not focus on the past, but lets move on to a new beginning." I informed them that in order to understand how we got to were we were, understanding what went wrong in the past was important information that they needed to know. Their attitude was pure arrogance. A year and a half later, nothing has changed. So why bother paying an MC 1/3 of our association fees? There is a possibility of a recall. However, elections are just around the corner. Hopefully, we'll get fresh blood, homeowners that are willing to work for their community. The financial health, according to the documents we have are in good standing. We have over $55,500. in the reserves, which they can tap into in terms of a loan. They can do a special assessment etc.
Regarding weather, it rains every afternoon in Florida during the summer months in addition to an irrigation system......Taking off for such an extended period of time is unconscionable.
Thank for your input.
KimR4 (Florida)
Posts: 33
Posted:
Sounds like a money problem. I'm on our Board and we have had to make some difficult decisions about what to fund. Landscaping is usually the first to go. We will soon raise the monthly assessment fee which isn't going to be popular but is necessary to meet our budget and maintain common areas.

I cannot speak to your management company issues or that your BOD takes time off. Both of those things need to be fixed. Interested owners need to become involved . Turning things around will take time and people willing to step up, learn and make good decisions.
JoseV2 (Florida)
Posts: 19
Posted:
Thank you for your response. We are working toward a special meeting in hope of getting additional support from homeowners. Although, elections are just around the corner, perhaps it's best to wait, maybe. The fact that the MC feels "threaten" by me is ludicrous but also makes me feel very uncomfortable. I believe that if she and her staff have "personal concerns about their safety" that's reason enough to terminate their contract. I'm still going to attend the meetings. What is the MC going to do once I'm on the board, request police protection? This is crazy. As a business owner and active member in our community ( I organize special events )I would not dare, threaten, harass, stalk, use profanity or make false statements. It's not in my character and everyone that knows me can attest to that fact. Thank you once again for your advise.
JoseV2 (Florida)
Posts: 19
Posted:
There has been a great deal of miss used funds. Really bad decisions have taken place. Some irreversible. The fall out of our economy made thing really rough for everyone. However, our situation started long before the collapse of the economy. Very bad decisions regarding not only our common areas but enforcing our bi-laws. One example, every home received 4 hard wood trees. Two in the front yard two in the rear. Within 5 years over 600 Oak trees were removed or destroyed by the homeowners. Now, our doc are very clear. They state that every home must have the required 4 hard wood trees on their lot. Guess what? We continue to see more and more trees destroyed every year and nothing is being done about it. Just one of the many issues that for several years I have address with all the prior Boards and MC.

Thank you so much for responding to our situation.
KimR4 (Florida)
Posts: 33
Posted:
Get elected to the Board. Look at your contract with the MC and learn what you have to do to terminate the contract. Ours was 30 day notice. We interviewed three management companies, presented our issues and chose wisely. But first, a new Board was elected. The hardest part for me, was discovering how long it all takes. We met twice a month for the first six months. I am the secretary and I can attest to how laborious the process is to document everything and to start turning things around.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I would ask who is bringing the lawsuit against you? That is important. If it the MC, then they should be using their funds to do so. If they are using the HOA's money, then that is an issue. That money comes from ALL the members. The HOa suing its own member? You may want to address this as I am sure your fellow supporters would NOT be happy the HOa using their funds this way. I would file a counter suit if they ever did sue. It can be for about anything like your legal costs for fighting a frivolous suit. The bases of which case can be tossed out or you get your expenses back.

The board does not know their relationship to the MC like the members seem not too... The MC is a HIRED contractor to the HOA. They are to do what the board tells them to do. I would want to know more about your financial situation of your HOa before going off on it NOT doing anything. Ya may not be able to afford this maintenance without raising dues or a special assessment.

Trees are NOT always our friends. I love trees but there is reality too. We had a beetle infestation in some of ours. Bradfords break off in storms. Some get too big and causes issues. Consult an aborist for the best tree options. We have tree board in our city. They give great advice on what trees to plant in what areas. Believe me, Southern pines are NOT safe trees to have. Subject to infection and falling down with weak root systems. I have a giant Oak which is nice but terrible root problem that can not mow.

Former HOA President
AnnH5 (Florida)
Posts: 304
Posted:
You should check your county ordinances regarding tree removal and replacement. It may be that the homeowners have violated county ordinances. Some trees are less than desirable due to the damage their root system may cause (so I understand how some homeowners may want to remove certain trees). However, if a tree is removed, it may be that the county requires that another tree be planted as a replacement.

As far as homeowners doing the maintenance work or improvements themselves, my general observation is that few homeowners have the inclination. For one, most people feel that they pay a fee or assessment so that the work is done for them. Few people want to come home from their jobs to do even more work for something they already pay for. Secondly, you are better off allowing licensed, certified professionals to do the work. The results (depending on the scope of the maintenance or repair) will typically be much nicer in the long run and perhaps have a warranty or guarantee.

As far as your rocky relationship with the CAM? You need to go to your Board with your concern. Ultimately, they are the responsible party for what is or isn't getting done and for HOW it is getting done.

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