GenoS (Florida)
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Posts: 4,276
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A few months ago we bought a house in a 100-unit HOA subdivision in Florida. It's our first experience with an HOA and so far, so good. The neighbors are friendly and the Board of Directors doesn't seem to have any power-mad control freaks on it. We have been attending the monthly Board of Directors meetings as a way to learn the ropes, so to speak, and get a better idea about how things work here.
After the most recent Board meeting last week, the head of the Rules committee approached me and asked if I would be willing to join her committee. The committees here in general seem to have trouble getting people to join and participate in the governance of the association. I told her I'd think about it. I spent a fair number of hours last week doing internet research on Florida HOAs and how they go about establishing their rules and regulations. Then I read through our governing documents to better understand exactly what they have to say. What I found was somewhat surprising.
Our HOA allows the members to vote every year on the rules and regulations that the board has established during the previous year. Is this typical for HOAs? From my research, it seems like an unusual arrangement.
My concerns don't revolve around the actual rules so much as the procedural aspects. We were told that 3 years ago an attempt was made to change "the rules" but the members voted against the changes at the annual meeting. It seems to me that allowing the members to vote on each and every rule change is an invitation to chaos at the annual meeting of members. If the package of rule changes is offered up as a monolithic take-it-or-leave-it set of changes then one runs the risk of people voting down the entire thing if they strongly disagree with even one of the changes. On the other hand, if each rule was brought individually before the members for a vote, with discussion and debate for each (as seems to be allowed under Florida law), the meeting could drag on for many hours.
I'm not sure what to make of all this. My first instinct is to not volunteer to spend many hours on the rules committee working on something that might very well be shot down at the annual members meeting next year.
Looking at the bigger picture, it might be more productive to spend time drafting (and getting support for) an amendment to the covenants that gives the sole power of rulemaking to the Board of Directors. In that case, the expense of getting an amendment passed and recorded with the county seems to be not inexpensive, and the Bylaws would also have to be amended since the power of the members to approve the rules at the annual meeting is enshrined in those Bylaws, and not the covenants. The covenants do mention "rules and regulations", but only briefly and in 3 separate sub-paragraphs that have to do with pets, vehicles, and leasing restrictions.
I'm really at a loss here. Was wondering if anyone here had any thoughts or insights about something like a "best practices" way to procede.
(p.s. this is my first time posting here and I hope to learn a lot from the good folks around these parts in the months ahead)
After the most recent Board meeting last week, the head of the Rules committee approached me and asked if I would be willing to join her committee. The committees here in general seem to have trouble getting people to join and participate in the governance of the association. I told her I'd think about it. I spent a fair number of hours last week doing internet research on Florida HOAs and how they go about establishing their rules and regulations. Then I read through our governing documents to better understand exactly what they have to say. What I found was somewhat surprising.
Our HOA allows the members to vote every year on the rules and regulations that the board has established during the previous year. Is this typical for HOAs? From my research, it seems like an unusual arrangement.
My concerns don't revolve around the actual rules so much as the procedural aspects. We were told that 3 years ago an attempt was made to change "the rules" but the members voted against the changes at the annual meeting. It seems to me that allowing the members to vote on each and every rule change is an invitation to chaos at the annual meeting of members. If the package of rule changes is offered up as a monolithic take-it-or-leave-it set of changes then one runs the risk of people voting down the entire thing if they strongly disagree with even one of the changes. On the other hand, if each rule was brought individually before the members for a vote, with discussion and debate for each (as seems to be allowed under Florida law), the meeting could drag on for many hours.
I'm not sure what to make of all this. My first instinct is to not volunteer to spend many hours on the rules committee working on something that might very well be shot down at the annual members meeting next year.
Looking at the bigger picture, it might be more productive to spend time drafting (and getting support for) an amendment to the covenants that gives the sole power of rulemaking to the Board of Directors. In that case, the expense of getting an amendment passed and recorded with the county seems to be not inexpensive, and the Bylaws would also have to be amended since the power of the members to approve the rules at the annual meeting is enshrined in those Bylaws, and not the covenants. The covenants do mention "rules and regulations", but only briefly and in 3 separate sub-paragraphs that have to do with pets, vehicles, and leasing restrictions.
I'm really at a loss here. Was wondering if anyone here had any thoughts or insights about something like a "best practices" way to procede.
(p.s. this is my first time posting here and I hope to learn a lot from the good folks around these parts in the months ahead)