Censorship-Deleting a thread

Amin

If I am not mistaken, did you not accuse all BOD's of embezzlement/cheating?

If I remember correctly, your original post described a situation in which you, as the owner of three units in your (association?) had been unable to obtain a copy of an insurance document which provided details of a payment or payments related (presumably) to damage caused by Hurricane Ike.

You stated you were given a heavily redacted copy, which did not provide the information you sought. You also asked for input as to how you could prove collusion between certain parties, presumably the board and/or management company, and a contractor who had been awarded approximately $75,000 in work for the association, apparently without competitive bidding. A suggestion was made that you could hire a private investigator.

Perhaps in that same post, or subsequent posts, you made general comments about unethical behavior of boards of directors and management companies, without providing specific details to support your allegations. You may well have made similar posts in the past with specific details. I am new to this message board and am not familiar with your previous posts. You also specifically stated "Did you say "thankless task of running an HOA"? Running an HOA is rewarded by getting money under the table or other perks that come with this "thankless" job." In my opinion, that comment was totally unnecessary and out of line. Serving on a board is often a thankless job and no, my previous and current board colleagues are not getting money under the table. We take great pains to ensure nothing we do can be interpreted as inappropriate conduct.

I personally felt your general comments regarding boards and management companies to be more or less a “rant” and possibly an attempt to anonymously stir something up. While you felt you should have been given the information you requested, and on the face of it I agree you should have, your purpose in making your other remarks was not clear to me.

Since you seem to be knowledgeable in association governance, and since you are apparently a resident of Texas or your properties are located in Texas, I was puzzled why you did not seem to be familiar with the laws enacted by the Texas Legislature in the 82nd session in 2011. Those laws, promulgated through the Texas Property Code give you, as the owner, specific rights to see virtually every document possessed by your association and/or its management company which relate to the association. The primary exception is you cannot see documents related to other property owners or details of executive sessions although those could probably be obtained through a subpoena.

If you are not being given the documents, or access to the documents you wish to review, I strongly suggest you familiarize yourself with the open records provisions enacted by the Legislature and restate your requests referring to the requirement to produce such documents. A good property attorney would be able to advise you further. I should add the association is entitled to certain protections, such as reasonable request/response intervals, and reimbursement for reproduction expenses. You should be able to determine from those records why there was apparently no competitive bidding for the work costing $75,000. As a homeowner, you are certainly entitled to ask that question of the board.

I don’t think there is censorship, however the words and tone of your original post were offensive to me and, I suspect to others. You can present your information in a way in which you request information, convey facts, and your opinions, without insulting others.

Amin,

From the last time you were posting to know, this site has had a lot of individuals posting only to sow discord, start arguments and post inflammatory messages. Because of this, it appears that the moderators have taken a more active role then they had in the past.

You are not the only one to have had posts or threads removed. It has happened to many (including regular posters). Some individuals have actually been banned from the site.

From the link at the top of the page (next to the smiley face):

This is a positive place for community association leaders to share ideas and learn. This forum is for community association Boards, Committees, Volunteers & HOA Professionals to discuss topics concerning their association duties.

Topics from individual homeowners, who are not acting as association volunteers, may be addressed if the person has come here to learn in a positive way.

We have only a few other rules:

(1) Post any relevant topic you like, but please keep it clean, helpful, positive and friendly.

(2) No Selling: No solicitation, advertising, or selling of any kind is allowed here, except for occasional announcements from official site sponsors.

(3) No Mention of Community/Company/Person Names: In order to fairly enforce (2) and prevent liability, we do not allow the mentioning of any community name, company name or product. Please also do not post the full name of any person.

After following Amin's past posts I doubt Tim he is capable of putting those pieces together.

You visit a site set up to encourage positive sharing of ideas for those non-crooks who volunteer their time while those that find fault do nothing.
Then you throw personal insults out and wonder why oh why your posts were removed.

Not really all that complicated.......

"Please do not feed the trolls."

Troll (Internet)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

And yes I'm as guilty as anyone here when it comes to troll baiting, because it's just too much fun but I've been going to an online support group, and am slowly getting the urge under control.

You aren't the only one being censored on this forum, the rest of us who have had stuff deleted so don't take it personally, and if you don't like the fact that they "censor" when they have the time to, then move to another forum.

Sometimes I've noticed when this forum has crashed, they go back to a previous backup and the posts between the last backup and today are lost. This might have happened to your post.

So just let me get this straight, when someone posts on this site of anonymous members the affect makes others nervous.

WTF?.

Can anyone understand who the real problem is in Amin's property?

In fact to me Amin's posts and responses are comical. He assumes his words have the power to intimidate but on his own property IN PERSON
he can accomplish nothing.

I think the moderators fell short with their actions. If in fact they deleted his post. I would support his ability to make future be removed too.

Respectfully Amin, I don't care how apathetic a homeowner might be, if you tell them that someone is misusing their funds, either wasting them or as you have alleged in the past taking kickbacks and using them for their own personal gain, that is beyond apathetic, that is downright catatonic. If you can't convince your fellow homeowners that there is chicanery afoot how do you expect to convince us, people who don't know you or have any way of verifying your statements.

Amin you can try to obfuscate the issue but it's all about the bottom line especially for non-resident homeowners. If you can show them that the Board though either mismanagement or fraud is taking dollars out of their pockets, you'll have their interest and their support.

BTW "how are you going to convince us" and now you say I don't have to convince you? If you're going to quote use the entire quote: If you can't convince your fellow homeowners that there is chicanery afoot how do you expect to convince us, people who don't know you or have any way of verifying your statements.

If you'll look closely in one, I ask if you can't convince your fellow homeowners (people who should know your character and veracity) of something how can you convince strangers on an internet chat site. In the other I simply remind you that it's your fellow homeowners you have to convince not us. Basically saying the same thing but with different words.

1. Yes I do, exact rate is unknown to me but I would guess 90%

2. I don't live in a city but I would guess the turn out rate for the township would be around the national average.

But we're not talking about me, we're talking about why YOU can't convince YOUR FELLOW HOMEOWNERS that someone (the current Board) is mismanaging THEIR MONEY. I know you blame it on apathy but the bottom line is what these people care about, every dollar misspent is a dollar out of THEIR pockets. Believe me people care when it comes down to MONEY.

Tim, I know that. He has a ready excuse for everything. It's not that he hasn't proven malfeasance it's owner apathy.