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SherryH4 (Washington)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Inherited Board President when former Pres sold home. Only 2 months into it and having major issue with submission of plans for new home on a lot.

We have northwest craftsman style homes and 12 lots with 11 owners (Two lots currently being constructed as speck houses and both owned by a builder.)

The board has determined the proposed home does not meet CC&Rs...flat roofs on a very modern stacked leggo style home with lots of glass and a suspended glass enclosed section overhanging the driveway. There are no such homes in our HOA nor any among the over 100 homes that can be seen on the hills and slopes within sight of the HOA lots. A lovely home in another setting. The height of the new home is partially blocking the view of a home behind it (under construction...not a spec home). Early talks were that the homeowners assoc would consider allowing the new home even though it's style was not compatible. Realtors advised us there was demand for something different in the area and that it might help property values of other homes. Obviously, there was much discussion about the pros and cons for all of us.

We do not have really strong CC&R wording on height: "appropriateness of their location with respect to topography and finished ground elevation." Our strong point is "conformity and harmony of external design with existing structures". The plans are radically different and we have determined they are against the CC&Rs based on that criteria. We have said we will entertain a submission of a request for a variance on roof style and design. We want to make approval contingent on also having the house go down in height to protect the existing home close to completion. Moving down will require further excavation and cost. Other homeowners have had to reposition and lower their homes from first plan submissins at cost to them.

Question...can we ask for variance approval to be contingent on lowering the house? with only 11 owners it is easy to consult and get consensus about this decision. We just don't know the answer to that question.....
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Sherry,

If the issue is a violation of the CC&Rs, then you need to simply disapprove the plan citing the CC&Rs. Neither the Board or a committee has authority to waive anything within the CC&Rs. Some CC&Rs do have language that the Declarant can allow variances (but the Declarant isn't the Board).

If the issue is a guideline, then the guideline needs to change vs. allowing a variance.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By SherryH4 on 07/14/2014 2:25 PM

Question...can we ask for variance approval to be contingent on lowering the house? with only 11 owners it is easy to consult and get consensus about this decision. We just don't know the answer to that question.....

Your variance should be an actual amendment to the CC&Rs.
AnnH5 (Florida)
Posts: 304
Posted:
No matter what happens (amend the CCRs, allow the variances), just remember that once it is built, it is there for good. If the design doesn't visually "fit", you might end up disappointed and stuck with it. Happened in my neighborhood on some high profile lots and years later, it looks like a mish-mosh of two very distinctive architectural styles. There is nothing desirable or charming about it.
SherryH4 (Washington)
Posts: 10
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Tim, The developer, I am assuming, was the Declarant. He is out of the picture...way out in fact. The development phase is over and the lot owners have assumed the operation of the association. Our governing document states: "No waiver of any provision of the Declaration or the Bylaws, rules, or regulations of the Association shall be deemed to have been made, either expressly or implied, unless such waiver shall be in writing and signed pursuant to authority contained in a resolution of the Board." This wording is in two sections of the document. The Board can enact a waiver (I mistakenly called it a variance).

What we want to do is make it contingent on lowering the height. We don't think we have strong enough CC&R wording to control height. It is somewhat of a trade-off. We will agree to a waiver only if the roof elevation is lowered. Can we bargain?

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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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You can always bargain. The issue will only occur if others challenge the bargaining. Then you will have to defend the decision to bargain vs. enforce.

I expect that you have discussed with the Associations attorney on the strength of the language in the CC&Rs.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Sherry

My first blush is you should not be bargaining but holding the builder to aesthetic fit (meaning looks like the others) versus height.

You all are caving in based on what some real estate agent believes is the up and coming thing. Seems you have only a few lots to build on before the neighborhood is complete so why cave in now?

If the neighbors were aware of he one off styling, would they agree?

SherryH4 (Washington)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Thanks for the replies. Appreciated them and helped at the Board meeting. We disapproved the plans. The next step will be theirs to ask for the waiver. But, strong sentiment to maintain our development as it is so probably no waivers.

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