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SaraM2 (California)
Posts: 6
Posted:
I'm new to HOAs, and I am trying to understand the entire process that board members have to go through financially. That being said, what do boards have to consider when making their yearly budgets?

I tried doing some research on my own, and stumbled across a few sites that seemed to have good information, but I'm just not certain if there is more I need to know. If you have any tips or pointers, that would be great!

Thanks!

P.S. Here are the sites I came across. They seem to be pretty informative, but I just want to be sure.

http://www.echo-ca.org/article/3-crucial-steps-prepare-budget-homeowners-associations

http://camblog.topssoft.com/bid/307355/8-Easy-Steps-to-Prepare-Budgets-for-your-Community-Association-s
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Sara

Not to simplify it, but an HOA basically has two parts to a budget. OPERATING which is the ability to cover operating/day to day expenses. Like a home budget. I take in so and so and I spend it on so and so. Usually a business budget has to more exact like not just $20 per day for meals but broken down more like $3 for breakfast, $7 for lunch, etc.

The second part is RESERVES. This is money put away for anticipated (future) expenses like pool relining, reroofing, etc. This amount/need usually is a result of a Reserve Study where a qualified person looks at and forecast such. Many associations go wrong guessing, underfunding, and/or ignoring this part. Especially those that say well I will not be here when that is needed so why should I pay for it now.

All budgets can/will fall on their butts sometimes. Like so much allocated for snow removal and it does not or it snows like he!! one year. These bumps have be accommodated for.

Enough for now. I need another drink.

Hope this helps.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Welcome to HOATalk, Sara. You've fpund a couple of nice sites. But since you're in CA, I think davis-stirling.com is really good for you because there is legislation in each state that's different about HOAs & budgets. At the Echo site, you've seen reference to the Davis-Stirling Act. Well, the website above is compelled by HOA attorneys and along with the ins & outs of the D-S Act, if offers all kinds of advice. For instance, go to davis-stirling.com, click on Main Index, scroll to Budge & click on it, scroll down that menu to "Sample Budgets," where you'll see a few to help guide you.

Are you on the Board? What size is your HOA? Budgets, of course, can vary based on the size & complexity of your HOA. Some only have a few items, e.g., insurance, maybe trash pickup, common area water, landscapers. Others have literally dozens.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
The first questions I would ask are:
1. What are the 5 largest expenses listed on your current budget, and what percentage of your total budget does each one represent?
2. Is Reserves one of your top 5 and if not what percentage does it represent?

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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Sara,

The basic steps are:

1) Add up the known expenses (trash service, landscaping, MC, insurance, etc)

2) Add up the expected expenses or how much the Board believes should be spent in certain areas (tree pruning, legal fees, taxes, administrative costs (printing, envelopes, postage, etc.) etc.

3) Add up the expected expenses for planned maintenance or repairs (based off of the reserve study).

4) Add up what the Association has obligated to transfer into the Reserve account (we use our savings account for the reserves).

5) Add together the amounts from 1-4 above.

This tells the Association what the expected expenses are.

Now to determine the amount of assessments needed for the year:

a) Add up the expected amount that will be transferred from the reserves (typically this will equal #3 above) into the operating budget (this is our checking account).

b) Use your best guess for other income, like disclosure packages (for example, our Association typically has 5 houses sell each year. So 5 disclosure packages will be needed at $100 per package).

c) Total up a & b

d) Subtract c from number 5 above. This will tell the Association the amount of assessments needed to cover the expected expenses.

Divide the answer from d) by the number of lots and you now have the annual assessment for each lot.

I've attached a copy of our Treasurers proposal to the Board. This may help illustrate the steps I've listed above.

Again, these are the basic steps. When you actually get into the details, it can be a little more confusing. Some of the budget process is simply educated guesses based on terms in contracts, inflation rates, financial history, etc.

Hope this helps,

Tim
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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By NpS on 07/07/2014 7:06 PM

2. Is Reserves one of your top 5 and if not what percentage does it represent?

Np,

Why would you be concerned on what percentage of the budget it represents?

If the amount going to Reserves is based off of a Reserve Study (which CA does require), then the costs are what they are.

I think a better question would be: Was a study done and, if it was, are the reserves being fully funded based off of the study?
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TimB4 on 07/07/2014 7:22 PM
Posted By NpS on 07/07/2014 7:06 PM

2. Is Reserves one of your top 5 and if not what percentage does it represent?


Np,

Why would you be concerned on what percentage of the budget it represents?

If the amount going to Reserves is based off of a Reserve Study (which CA does require), then the costs are what they are.

I think a better question would be: Was a study done and, if it was, are the reserves being fully funded based off of the study?

All good questions Tim. Sara has a lot of quick learning to do. Rather than take her through the steps as you have nicely done, I thought I would try to get a sense of the proportion/balance of allocations in her community. I could have asked many questions about reserves, but the easiest one for Sara to answer is what proportion is allocated to Reserves. Based on her answers, I would have made suggestions on where she might invest her energies first. If this is all new to her, it can be overwhelming. But to list 5 or 6 items and their proportion is easy for anyone to do, and is in my opinion a good place for Sara to start learning about her HOA's budget & finances.


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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Thanks for the explanation Np.

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