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SusanA4 (California)
Posts: 13
Posted:
I am a longtime trustee of an HOA formed under the Incorporation of Summer Resort Owners Act, Michigan PA 137 of 1929.

According to PA 137, “Persons eligible to membership in said corporation, at any and all times, must be freeholders of land…”

The home I live in is within the HOA corporate boundaries. My husband bought the home in 1992. My husband and I were married in 2005. My name is not on the deed.

Members who want me off the board have raised the question of my eligibility to vote or serve as a trustee. The members’ position is that I am not a property owner or freeholder because my name is not on the deed, and that I must be dismissed immediately.

Notwithstanding my own immediate situation, this is a fascinating topic. From a purely social point of view, it’s amazing to think that a stay-at-home-wife-not-on-the-mortgage-or-deed would not be eligible to vote, but the breadwinner-mortgagee-deed-holder-husband would be eligible to vote.

Am I a freeholder?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Susan,

Welcome to the forum. For those who may be unaware (and I had to look it up myself to be sure), a freeholder is one who has title to the property and not simply a contingent or expectant estate or right of occupancy (as in being the spouse of a freeholder).

So, as I understand it, unless your name is on the deed, you are not a freeholder of the property and, based on what you posted, are not considered a member of the Association. It is fairly typical in Associations that membership is defined by who's name is on the deed.

One way around this is to place the property in a trust and list both you and your husband as trustees. Another way is to simply amend the title and add your name.

NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Looks like your concern is not a new one.

From page 131 of the Fall 2005 Michigan Real Property Review:

"The court held that the election provisions violated
due process for two reasons. First, it found the Act
deficient in its identification of those persons qualified to
vote in an election under MCL 455.206 because it
permitted only “freeholders” to vote. The court held that
the failure of the legislature to define the term “freeholder”
made the Act unconstitutionally vague, noting that the
Act fails to address issues that could arise about a single
freeholder’s interest in more than one parcel within the
territory, or multiple freehold interests in a single parcel."


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PrivateF
Posts: 16
Posted:
Susan. My HOA Board has a Treasurer who is not a legal HO. His wife owns the property, he is not on the deed. For me personally, this is an issue since it opens up the possibility that a renter could get on the Board, and they simply do not have the concern when they don't own the property. I want him removed in spite of the fact that he is a lovely, honest man. He simply doesn't meet what is required in the ByLaws.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
I am not nor do I play a lawyer.

I for one have always believed that if your name is not on the deed then regardless of your "association/relationship" with the owner (spouse or not), you are not an owner.

SusanA4 (California)
Posts: 13
Posted:
These are all great posts. Thank you so much.

I can see where a renter might not have the same care or interest in a property as an owner would. But I believe an owner's spouse would be likely to have much more care and concern than a renter.

That said, it sounds like a QCD is in order, to take care of this immediate issue.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
So, if the husband and the wife are both listed on the deed each one is an equal owner and each one is equally entitled to vote, therefore they should have two votes. The single person who owns the lot next to them only gets one vote because there is only one freeholder.

Why do you people do this to yourselves? Most associations have a difficult time attracting people willing to serve on its board. Limiting board membership to owners excludes all other persons who could could bring leadership to your board. Further limiting board membership to exclude owners whose names are not on the deed just narrows the field even more. What is wrong with allowing members to decide at the ballot box who will they wish to serve on the board?

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LarryB13 on 07/06/2014 2:18 PM

What is wrong with allowing members to decide at the ballot box who will they wish to serve on the board?

Should read:

What is wrong with allowing members to decide at the ballot box who will serve on the board?
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By SusanA4 on 07/06/2014 2:02 PM
These are all great posts. Thank you so much.

I can see where a renter might not have the same care or interest in a property as an owner would. But I believe an owner's spouse would be likely to have much more care and concern than a renter.

That said, it sounds like a QCD is in order, to take care of this immediate issue.

Forget renters. What about spouses?

Saw this in one HOA. The docs said spouse had voting rights. They were divorcing. Both showed up demanding voting rights. The Election Committee asked them to designate one or the other. They refused to do so. The Election Committee disqualified both from voting.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Agree and disagree Larry.

Still one vote per household no matter how many names on the deed. Otherwise, someone could put 100 names on a deed and take control of the HOA.

Agree with your comment about never having enough people to serve.

The "freeholder" language in Susan's "summer resort" statute was obviously intended to distinguish between owners and renters. I would modify bylaws to allow spouses to serve. There may be some objections, but a good person who is willing to serve is always hard to find. Even though a statute is involved, the HOA would be within its rights to change the bylaws because the Michigan courts have already found that the term "freeholder" in the statute is too ambiguous.


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NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
John

The spousal dispute creates issues. No surprises. The Board needs to decide which vote to accept or whether to reject both. Often a tough decision.

But in Susan's case, there doesn't appear to be any dispute among the spouses. So why shouldn't non-titleholder spouse A be able to serve when titleholder spouse B can't or won't.


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JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By NpS on 07/06/2014 2:41 PM
John

The spousal dispute creates issues. No surprises. The Board needs to decide which vote to accept or whether to reject both. Often a tough decision.

But in Susan's case, there doesn't appear to be any dispute among the spouses. So why shouldn't non-titleholder spouse A be able to serve when titleholder spouse B can't or won't.


At least not yet or none we are aware of..........LOL
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LarryB13 on 07/06/2014 2:18 PM

Why do you people do this to yourselves? Most associations have a difficult time attracting people willing to serve on its board. Limiting board membership to owners excludes all other persons who could could bring leadership to your board. Further limiting board membership to exclude owners whose names are not on the deed just narrows the field even more. What is wrong with allowing members to decide at the ballot box who will they wish to serve on the board

I agree.

I initially thought that instituting a qualifier that all Directors must be owners was a good idea. Then, as I was gathering signatures heard from individuals like Susan (where one spouse was not on the deed). There were several reasons for this. In learning those reasons and talking to the individuals who the qualifer would have excluded, I dropped the idea completely.

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Ohio took care of it by statute:

5311.08 Unit owners association.

(A)

(1) Every condominium property shall be administered by a unit owners association . All power and authority of the unit owners association shall be exercised by a board of directors, which the unit owners shall elect from among the unit owners or the spouses of unit owners. If a unit owner is not an individual, that unit owner may nominate for the board of directors any principal, member of a limited liability company, partner, director, officer, or employee of that unit owner.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By GlenL on 07/06/2014 3:31 PM
Ohio took care of it by statute:

5311.08 Unit owners association.

(A)

(1) Every condominium property shall be administered by a unit owners association . All power and authority of the unit owners association shall be exercised by a board of directors, which the unit owners shall elect from among the unit owners or the spouses of unit owners. If a unit owner is not an individual, that unit owner may nominate for the board of directors any principal, member of a limited liability company, partner, director, officer, or employee of that unit owner.

Glen

Does this say an owner and their spouse could be on the BOD at the same time? I understand Tim's belief all are needed to serve but I have issues with spouses being able to serve at the same time.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Wouldn't make sense John. Would put too much power in one household. Would fail challenge as being non-democratic.


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JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
NpS

I agree but as I read what was posted, both spouses could be on the BOD at the same time. The wording is everything.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Yes John they could and I too believe it is a bad idea, not only from the appearance of collusion but for the potential stress on the marriage. We had a couple who both ran for the Board, he was a long time member and was re-elected while she was passed over. It wasn't until he stepped down that she was elected. While they both could run, the homeowners held the ultimate veto power.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JohnC46 on 07/06/2014 5:21 PM

both spouses could be on the BOD at the same time.

Only if the members choose to elect both or if the members fail to recall one if appointed by the board.

When people are willing to serve, I see no sound reason to prevent the members from casting a vote.

SusanA4 (California)
Posts: 13
Posted:
Whether both a husband and wife may or should serve as trustees is a great topic, but is not the problem here.

There is an AG Opinion that states each freeholder is entitled to one vote, so that part is covered. If both husband and wife are listed on the deed, they each get one vote.

The question here gets back to the definition of freeholder. Is a spouse not on the deed a freeholder? For at least ten properties in our sub, the mortgage is in the husband's name only, and the deed is in the husband's name only. For the most part these are older couples.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By SusanA4 on 07/06/2014 5:38 PM
W
There is an AG Opinion that states each freeholder is entitled to one vote, so that part is covered. If both husband and wife are listed on the deed, they each get one vote.

What type of voting was that opinion on?
I would be interested in reading it if it was applying to corporations and/or HOA/COAs.

Typically Assocaitions have 1 vote per lot or, in the case of condominiums, a percentage of votes based on size of the unit. Most governing documents have language similar to:

When more than one person holds an interest in any Lot, all such persons shall be members. The vote for such Lot shall be exercised as they among themselves determine, but in no event shall more than one vote be case with respect to any Lot

Quote:
Posted By SusanA4 on 07/06/2014 5:38 PM
W
The question here gets back to the definition of freeholder. Is a spouse not on the deed a freeholder? For at least ten properties in our sub, the mortgage is in the husband's name only, and the deed is in the husband's name only. For the most part these are older couples.

I thought the legal definition I cited earlier addressed that issue.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By NpS on 07/06/2014 9:40 AM
Looks like your concern is not a new one.

From page 131 of the Fall 2005 Michigan Real Property Review:

"The court held that the election provisions violated
due process for two reasons. First, it found the Act
deficient in its identification of those persons qualified to
vote in an election under MCL 455.206 because it
permitted only “freeholders” to vote. The court held that
the failure of the legislature to define the term “freeholder”
made the Act unconstitutionally vague, noting that the
Act fails to address issues that could arise about a single
freeholder’s interest in more than one parcel within the
territory, or multiple freehold interests in a single parcel."


What the quote above says is that the term "freehold" in the statute is ambiguous. Back in 1929, legislators could get away with vague statutes like yours.

But modern statutes are usually written with a definition section. Regardless of what the term means in other contexts, the definition section of the statute can define the term differently or more specifically than common usage.

When a court like the one described above rules that a provision violates due process, that's the death knell for that provision. In the case from the Michigan Review, the election provision was found deficient. Although it doesn't address your issue, the court's opinion is that the term "freehold" is problematic because it's too vague.

If there is an AG opinion that states that each freeholder is entitled to one vote, can you direct us to where we can find that opinion. I question whether the AG opinion is exactly as you describe.

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SusanA4 (California)
Posts: 13
Posted:
This AG Opinion addressed PA 137 Summer Resort Owner Corporation HOAs like ours.

http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/datafiles/2000s/op10307.htm
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,061
Posted:
Actually, I think I found the opinion you cited:

WHITMAN v LAKE DIANE CORPORATION

Ahh, I just realized (and I should have realized it earlier) that this issue is dealing with resort owners (I interpret this to be timeshares but could be wrong). Similar to mobile home parks, the rules are very different than HOA/COAs and I don't have a solid enough understanding to really offer more than I have (and other then the definition, the rest could be wrong - well heck, per the ruling it's possible that the definition isn't applicable).
SusanA4 (California)
Posts: 13
Posted:
Our HOA was laid out after WWII. We believe the original intent was a small community of summer cottages. Many of the homes are small and "cottage-y" but we are all year round owners.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
Posted:
Tim is right. It's different than an HOA or Condo. More like a cooperative, which has a very different structure.

Based on what the AG opinion letter says, the solution to your problem Susan ought to be simple. You can have your spouse grant you a life estate. That give you the right to live in the RE for the rest of your life.

Per the AG's letter opinion, someone who has a life estate is a freeholder. So that's all you need to become a freeholder.

You can record the life estate that your spouse grants you at the local recording office. It should be relatively inexpensive to file and there shouldn't be any transfer tax involved.

For voting purposes, it seems like you will be better off with a life estate than having your name on the deed. According to the AG letter opinion, spouses have to share 1 vote but a titleholder and a life estate holder each gets 1 vote apiece. Personally, I think the arrangement is ridiculous, but if you want to play within the rules stated, that's what you should be able to do.


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NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
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Quote:
Posted By NpS on 07/06/2014 6:42

For voting purposes, it seems like you will be better off with a life estate than having your name on the deed. According to the AG letter opinion, spouses have to share 1 vote but a titleholder and a life estate holder each gets 1 vote apiece. Personally, I think the arrangement is ridiculous, but if you want to play within the rules stated, that's what you should be able to do.


Oops. My bad. I misread the AG letter. Ignore this part.

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