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MelissaM (California)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Our community has a real problem with overnight parking on the streets. Its not but just a few people but they have up to five cars on the street each and the neighbors are not happy. And in my opinion rightfully so. We have a 50 home community and our CC&R's have provisions to change the parking rules. Our Board is considering adopting new rules.

What are your community rules in regards to getting cars off the streets at night and do they work?

Thanks

KevinK5 (California)
Posts: 64
Posted:
Our association in Florida says no street parking at all except in emergencies. Some people stil park on the street on occaisions. Because our streets are not owned by the associaton, legal counsel has told us we do not have the right to tow the cars. We also do not have authority to fine owners. Since we have no recourse to enforce the rule, all we can do is send letters reminding them of the rules. That has been keeping the number of violations to a minmium.
BradD2 (Florida)
Posts: 418
Posted:
Kevin, check your counties vehicle parking ordinances. We were told the same thing but I have found the ordinances in Orange County the specify you can only park on the street when it is not possible to park off the street. There is also an ordinance for parking across a driveway or sidewalk. We have had issues with double parking and parking against the flow of traffic.

We have the same restrictions in our Covenants but I think it is better to let the local authorities deal with such issues. When tickets start to be handed out you will notice the problem correct itself.
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Melissa:

If you don't own your streets the only thing you can do is look at your city/county ordinances and try to find something in there to enforce it.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
MelissaM:
First, check your covenant docs to determine whether your streets are your community's responsibility to maintain/repair and what your docs say about parking for residents/guests.
If your streets belong to the community, you can get no parking signs posted to 'remind' residents, and obviously, there must be another area that the docs stipulate for residents to park.
If your streets are municipal-owned, then parking violations come under the local police to monitor and give tickets as violations occur.
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Who owns the streets? That's a good question. Brad is absolutely correct; however, we're having the same problem here in NoVA and although almost all of our streets are privately owned, there is another tool that you might be able to use here. Because of skyrocketing real estate prices in our area, many of our homeowners are renting out their extra rooms, basements and one of them is even renting flop space (month to month) to 7 unrelated individuals. So you have the owner, his wife, baby and 7 other unrelated renters living in the same small 1300SF townhome. The county's zoning law are crystal clear - It says that you cannot have more than 4 unrelated individuals living in the same townhome or Single family home. It takes a while, since the county has been involved, there's been a reduction in density per home and now there are fewer cars. Check your county's zoning laws.

MelissaM (California)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Thanks to all who have responded.

Our community does own the streets and each car belongs to a family member who owns the home.

Its the overnight parking that really creates a problem. During the day there is a amaller problem.

PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
Melissa: Certainly, if parking is more of a problem at night, its because everyone is at 'home'. Still, check your docs. to find if there is a stipulation how many cars a unit can have.

Also, the local police may be able to give you some guidelines on changing your CC&Rs for a resolution to your community parking issue. To change your CC&Rs you do have to take a vote and have it passed by a percentage of members.
This also is in your docs.
JM2 (Oregon)
Posts: 439
Posted:
Hi Melissa:

Check with your local fire department; the Uniform Fire Code requires a certain amount of clearance so that emergency vehicles can get through. They can advise you if - and if so, where - "no parking" zones need to be, and can give you some leverage in making the case to change your documents, if that is needed, on your private streets.

We had the HOA install "No Parking" signs (Peachtree Business Products is a good source for them) and have curbs painted. We sent out a letter ahead of time to all owners and residents to advise them that the no parking rule would be enforced as of a certain date, then started enforcement.

One that is in place, you need to know what the state, county or city laws and ordinances are on towing, then follow them to the letter on any towing that is done. In the MC where I used to live, we would work with the towing company on this; they would patrol at night, and call the manager on duty for emergencies to get permission to tow; they would take a photo of the car in question, showing that it was improperly parked, so that we could then back up any accusation that a car should not have been towed.

Luckily, in Oregon, most of the time the developer is responsible for installing signs in the no parking zones, so people move in with that understanding, and the counties/cities make sure that the no parking provisions are written into the CC&R's for private streets.

The difficulty we faced was places where the county made the developer put in the no parking provisions for public streets. One of the local HOA lawyers advised that if the HOA wanted to actually enforce it, they would have to have the city or county sign off that the weren't going to enforce it and basically give the HOA the permission to do so.

J. Patrick Moore, CMCA
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Now that we know that the community owns the streets, I would check the CCRs and if they are like most of the docs that we've seen, there usually is a section that say that the Board has the Authority to control how this common area is to be utilized. If it's clearly stated that the Board does have in fact has authority over these common areas, then have your attorney draw up a resolution and have the Board vote in this. It does not require a community vote. Send the proposed resolution to the residents prior to the Board Vote and then vote. Different solutions might be as follows - Restrict parking where no one can park on the street, limit parking on the street to 2 vehicles per household, work with local towing/impound company or PM in order to implement a permit system. I've even seen a lot of the newer communities in some states mandate that the garage be used exclusively for parking automobiles and that the resident park their cars in the garages before they make use of street parking. Only 50% of the garages in our communities are being used for automobile storage. The other garages are storage facilities, workshops, converted playrooms, rec-rooms, bedrooms, and yes some of these are zoning violations. Good luck.
DwightT (Idaho)
Posts: 664
Posted:
That brings up a good point. Our CC&Rs have the following clauses:
"Garages" - All houses shall have an enclosed garage, which holds no less than two cars and no more than three.

"Off-street Parking" - All Lots shall have a driveway that allows a minimum of two off-street automobile parking spaces within the boundaries of each Lot.

And as part of the "Vehicle Storage" clause:
Parking of automobiles or other vehicles on any part of the properties or on public ways adjacent thereto shall be prohibited except within garages, carports, or other approved areas.

Our streets are publicly owned, and other than trailers and over-sized vehicles, the city does not have any restrictions against parking on the street.

We have one house where the 4 residents (college-age renters) have turned the garage into a rec-room with a pool table, and as a result are typically parking their cars in the street, usually blocking the neighbor's mailbox/newspaper box. We are wondering if we can use those clauses in the CC&Rs to require the owner to have the pool table removed so that at least two of the cars can be parked in the garage and the other two parked in the driveway.
JM2 (Oregon)
Posts: 439
Posted:
Hi Dwight:

Most people use their garage as a storage unit, not as a rec room...check your docs to see if turning the garage into living space is allowed - many docs do not allow it. That would be the way to deal with the problem.

By the way, have you seen the SmartCars that Mercedes builds and will be importing into America? You could park 6 of them in a 3-car garage....

JM
MelanieK1 (North Carolina)
Posts: 4
Posted:
While I agree that having a lot of cars parked in the street is annoying from what I am gathering where we live in NC that is just too bad. Unless your streets are private convenants do not and should not override the law. Where we live the law states that you cant block someone's driveway, mailbox, car must be facing the direction of traffic. Other than that it isnt unlawful. We are currently researching this issue in the neighborhood I live in. I find it ridiculous that we were having some major renovations done to our home and we got a parking letter from our HOA. I dont think I should have to call my HOA to notify them of why I am parking in the street. We are not street parkers, we use our garage, but occasionally park in the street for a few hours. From what I have gathered so far is that convenants do not override law because the streets are public property. If they did an HOA could change speed limits within a community as well.
MelanieK1 (North Carolina)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Blocking a neighbors driveway, mailbox etc is a violation. Call the police and have the cars ticketed and/or towed.

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