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RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 1,767
Posted:
I recently asked the question of Adrian Adams and today came the response.

For California associations only: http://www.davis-stirling.com/Newsletters/2014Newsletters/ChangingDirectorQualifications/tabid/4227/Default.aspx#axzz33DI0VKUW
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
Ah, ha! So that was you, Richard. I liked your question and the answer. We, too, only have the director must be a member (+ plus a ban on convicted felons). I'd like to see a couple added, but not the one you aded, i.e., we did have a non-resident director who lies across the street and is active on our committees.

On the other hand, we had a director(appointed by the board) who was a new owner, only lived here very part-time and lived full-time 1-1/2 hours away. He was terrible!
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
I have mixed feelings on the issue of limiting board membership.

An HOA or condo board typically deals with millions of dollars worth of property. In most associations, only a member may serve on the board. Is this really a wise decision? Does purchasing a home or condo somehow imbue one with the business skills and experience to manage an association?

Rather than arbitrarily limiting who may be a director, let the ballot box decide who is qualified. I have no idea why a non-owner, non-member, or non-resident would want to serve on the board but if the members vote such people in, so be it.

In my own association, we have large rural parcels that are only about 10 percent occupied by full-time residents. In the eleven years since the owners have taken over, the directors tend to be mostly full-timers. This is because few non-resident members vote, allowing the full-timers to vote for themselves and their friends. The downside to this is that these people also tend to be retired blue-collar workers with absolutely no experience in running any sort of a business and the association is beginning to suffer as the directors focus their attention on petty internal squabbles instead of focusing on the mission of the association.

MichaelB32 (California)
Posts: 141
Posted:
What a coincidence:

Recently at my HOA, three members of our five member HOA Board also passed a rule that eliminated owners who did not reside in the complex from holding office. Two Board members abstained. One was a non resident. This new rule eliminate approximately 40% of the membership from holding office. Yes the same percent as your question. Over resent years, at least two non residents had held HAO office. The "Friars Village" ruling states that it must be "reasonable" when setting qualification rules. I asked the question, in another forum, is who defines "reasonable". The Board or the membership? Our HOA had already allowed non-residents to hold office by the members voting.

One legal response I got was that "the court will define reasonable". The "Friars Village" case is very interesting. They were fighting over a "Bloodline rule" where a husband and wife wanted to hold two position on the Board because they owned two properties. Your response from Adam Kessler "I am not comfortable with this" implies that this precedent need to be more clearly defined. But it appears that you (RichardP13) and me (MichaelB32) are both in the same position from different Association. Are their others?

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RichardP13 (California)
Posts: 1,767
Posted:
I had asked a question three different ways to finally get a response from that website. All I was trying to get out of them was, can the Board institute a rule that would allow difference factors that were "fair and reasonable", using the Friar HOA as case law.

In creating our election rules, I put a qualifier that a nominee must return a candidate nomination form along with a signed candidate pledge. Our attorney, who works for the law firm who is referenced, said it had to be placed in the Bylaws. His boss has a different opinion.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
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Posted By RichardP13 on 06/01/2014 11:58 AM
I recently asked the question of Adrian Adams and today came the response.

For California associations only: http://www.davis-stirling.com/Newsletters/2014Newsletters/ChangingDirectorQualifications/tabid/4227/Default.aspx#axzz33DI0VKUW

Interesting. So far, that wouldn't work for our association, or here in Connecticut, for that matter. Both our Declaration and Connecticut state law forbids the executive board from determining the qualifications, powers and duties, or terms of office of executive board members.

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