FredO (California)
Posts: 198
Posts: 198
Posted:
I live in a HOA in Calif. For a long time, I have felt that some members of the board are corrupt.
We now have undeniable proof that election fraud has taken place on one or more annual elections (maybe going back years).
One homeowner who ran for election last year (June 2013) recently decided to inspect the ballots from that last election.
This HO discovered that she "WAS" elected to the board but the board and the inspectors of the election claimed and published vote tallies
that did not match the actual ballots. This person was told they did not win and was not seated.
During the recent inspection (and count) at the property managers office, there was the primary Inspector present along with the new (six months)
property manager. All the board members and the HOA retained attorney did not attend this inspection and recount of the ballots.
So, the question to you all is what to do about this? It is clearly evident that Fraud took place and it was not a simple miscount. Our by-laws state that there are one or three inspectors (per davis stirling). We use three people for inspectors and the published results supposedly counted, check and re-checked (verified) by the inspectors.... It appears that there was a pre-determined outcome that they wanted to have to prevent this HO from ascending to the Board of Directors...
What to do now? What would you do?
Election fraud is a crime in Calif (punishable by up to a year in county jail or a fine or both. It is a misdemeanor.
Also, since the US mail is used to send/receive ballots this constitutes mail fraud (a federal crime) a crime punishable by up
to 20 years in prison, or a fine or both.
These are actual crimes and we feel these cannot be ignored and need to be reported to legal authorities.
According to this persons retained attorney, election fraud is often just the tip of the iceberg and is often used to hide financial mis-deeds.
Has anyone had experience with this? Would you sue the HOA or the person responsible directly?
It appears that D&O insurance does not cover willful criminal acts....
This years elections are currently in-process. Our new property manager suggest using a neutral 3rd party to count the votes.
The board has not responded to letters from the person's lawyer (neither has the HOA's lawyer).
This one looks to be interesting....
One member of the board who was seated last year already has resigned...
Other neighbors are now just starting to realize that something very "hincky" is going on wrt the current seated board.
So, when is it the right thing to sue the board or HOA.... clearly they (current long serving board members) have missed the concept that the HOA and Board exist solely to protect property values. If they are doing criminal acts, that can and should be cleared by the courts, then that bad publicity will have a negative impact on all our property values. Seems to many of my neighbors that this is now in the public realm.....
What would you do? How would you handle it?
We now have undeniable proof that election fraud has taken place on one or more annual elections (maybe going back years).
One homeowner who ran for election last year (June 2013) recently decided to inspect the ballots from that last election.
This HO discovered that she "WAS" elected to the board but the board and the inspectors of the election claimed and published vote tallies
that did not match the actual ballots. This person was told they did not win and was not seated.
During the recent inspection (and count) at the property managers office, there was the primary Inspector present along with the new (six months)
property manager. All the board members and the HOA retained attorney did not attend this inspection and recount of the ballots.
So, the question to you all is what to do about this? It is clearly evident that Fraud took place and it was not a simple miscount. Our by-laws state that there are one or three inspectors (per davis stirling). We use three people for inspectors and the published results supposedly counted, check and re-checked (verified) by the inspectors.... It appears that there was a pre-determined outcome that they wanted to have to prevent this HO from ascending to the Board of Directors...
What to do now? What would you do?
Election fraud is a crime in Calif (punishable by up to a year in county jail or a fine or both. It is a misdemeanor.
Also, since the US mail is used to send/receive ballots this constitutes mail fraud (a federal crime) a crime punishable by up
to 20 years in prison, or a fine or both.
These are actual crimes and we feel these cannot be ignored and need to be reported to legal authorities.
According to this persons retained attorney, election fraud is often just the tip of the iceberg and is often used to hide financial mis-deeds.
Has anyone had experience with this? Would you sue the HOA or the person responsible directly?
It appears that D&O insurance does not cover willful criminal acts....
This years elections are currently in-process. Our new property manager suggest using a neutral 3rd party to count the votes.
The board has not responded to letters from the person's lawyer (neither has the HOA's lawyer).
This one looks to be interesting....
One member of the board who was seated last year already has resigned...
Other neighbors are now just starting to realize that something very "hincky" is going on wrt the current seated board.
So, when is it the right thing to sue the board or HOA.... clearly they (current long serving board members) have missed the concept that the HOA and Board exist solely to protect property values. If they are doing criminal acts, that can and should be cleared by the courts, then that bad publicity will have a negative impact on all our property values. Seems to many of my neighbors that this is now in the public realm.....
What would you do? How would you handle it?