to boat or not to boat?

IMO you're wrong, a trailer is a trailer no matter what it's hauling. Now technically I suppose under that section you could store the Boat as long as it wasn't on the trailer. The police vehicles IMO are not commercial vehicles, they are public service vehicles. The cars with wraps are commercial vehicles and the owners should either park them in their garage or cover them in the driveway.

Steve you if enough of your fellow homeowners agree, you could always amend the documents to specifically allow boats on trailers. If you look at the way the section is written I'm sure it was to disallow anything not a motor vehicle and it is unfortunate that boats were not specifically mentioned.

I would put in garage it just does not fit. Mind i dont care about the police cars or the trucks just think it is dumb all around when they pay my tax then they can make demands.

Just so you know smart ass when i bought my home there was only 3 houses in the whole place, and was told that it was a very lax hoa. Problem only started when the home owners took over. Last it was insane to the point that the board did not want kids riding bikes down the road as hoa was in fear of being suied for anything. Yes i am on the board and voted there by the homeowners that dont want to see someone with nothing better to do but help feed their ego by being president of hoa continue the bs. I have no shame to say i think hoa is bs. Plenty of neighborhoods do just fine without hoa. But yes i will say noone put a gun to my head. I bought into the place and know they had hoa that is my fault. But did not know that assholes where going to move in.

I take great offense to your calling us names. Your in the wrong. Period. Suck it up and get rid of the trailer or move to a neighborhood that does not have an HOA. We read our covenants, you didn't and now you call us names. America, the land of the free to be irresponsible and lay the blame on your neighbor instead of yourself.

Speaking for all the HOA A** holes who read their contract before they signed it.

I find it interesting that you see the owners moving in who want to follow the CCR's and maintain the standard of the development are the problem and not the person you see in the mirror every morning.

Seems to me this just may be another troll, or maybe one of those "I was here first types" so it should be my way.

Mike

aaaaah

now I understand

there is NOTHING worse than the bored geezer police

let them have their wall and hide themselves away

good-bye ~ good luck ~ GOOD RIDDANCE

RAH RAH SIS BOOM BAH, HOPA ALL THE WAY

Trailers in driveways are banned.

You own a trailer.

You would LIKE to park same in driveway.

DOH

? what is the issue ?

Oh, yeah, you signed a contract which includes a restriction !

Now you are moaning and whining and squirming and looking for validation.

CAVEAT EMPTOR

Wow this was not helpful in the least. Filled with people that live to be on the hoa boards. Sorry life is that boring to have to put all that energy on what other people do just to full that empty void. Thank you to the people that actualy said helpful stuff. I should have know better to go on a hoa board and try to think anyone would do anything but defend hoa.

No i would fight for all even the tar shack. See again that seems to be the hoa mindset god forbid there is no hoa how could people possiable be able to take care of their own property without someone butting in to tell them what is best for them.plenty of places survive without a hoa and their are bot gettos.

Steve,

Can you get enough support from other owners to change things? Get the board to ease up, or elect a majority of board members, or recall your board, or actually amend your CC&Rs? If yes, go for it.

How can you go about recall the board. Cause we did have a hoa meeting for tge new board to try and get these guys out and at meeting we did. But tgen the meeting got heated and meeting was closed out. Later they did a proxy vote by mail and said the votes at the meeting did not count. Why that makes me mad is that half the people have no idea who anybody is. Funny thung is that the three members that seem to be issues all went around soliciting votes. Which is funny since there is a no soliciting by law. And tgey just got back in. Then when we had first meeting five board members. The meeting starts with one nominating the other for president and the other seconding it. So me and the other fellow that are not happy about all this will be out voted everytime. Really thought there should be a hoa meeting with neighborhood and any of the board members that want to run for prez should get to speak to the neighborhood and let them decide. For the people by the people not for peopke by the board.

1)You could try to get your documents changed by a majority vote. Change the restrictions and then you can park your boat and trailer on your driveway.
2) You could rent a parking space in a boat storage area and store your boat there.
3) You could sell your home and move to another house where there are no deed restrictions and keep your boat and trailer parked at your home.
4) You could possibly remodel your home and extend your garage so that you can keep your boat and trailer parked in your own garage. My neighbor is doing this- losing a room in their home so they can extend the garage by enough feet to park their boat in their garage.

Good to know. Often the regular posters read that individuals don't believe that they agreed to be part of a contract. We are human and sometimes don't always read everything before responding. It shouldn't happen that way, but it does (I've done it myself).


I agree. If you take the time to read most of the court cases surrounding HOA's, most of the cases, in my opinion, could have been avoided if ego's or personality conflicts were not involved in the decision making. Unfortunately, it does happen.

This is why it's important that the entire membership be involved in the running of the Association, as it's the membership that are the checks and balances for the Boards.

In my opinion, minimum participation is attending the annual meeting (or send a representative in your place if you can't attend) and actually casting a vote. Unfortunately, just as it can be comical (silly) when Boards allow egos and personality conflicts to enter into decisions, it can become disastrous if membership apathy removes the checks and balances (by lack of participation).


Well, to be honest, typically the Declarant won't be as forceful in ensuring compliance as their main interest is selling houses.

When you say that everyone went nuts, are implying that it was the members of the Board, the individual members or both that went nuts?


So are you upset because the violations are being identified and brought into compliance?

or

Are you upset because the members chose to ignore the CC&Rs and now have to deal with the consequences of that choice?

or

Are you upset over the methodology used to enforce the covenants?


So perhaps it is the methodology used.

Perhaps you could volunteer to serve on the enforcement committee and implement a different methodology.


To look at that statement from a different perspective and to use an analogy, it appears that sometimes everybody knows what the speed limit is, chooses to go faster than the posted limit and then complains when the police set up cameras to catch the speeders. Those who chose to speed, are ticked at the police rather than admitting that they made a poor decision. If they believe that the speed limit should be higher, then they should have lobbied for a higher limit rather then simply choosing to ignore the limit established.

Or in other words, don't shoot the messenger.

If you believe that a covenant or rule should be changed, gather support and propose the change. If you have enough support, the documents can easily be changed to what you believe is more appropriate.

Tim i would like to thank you. You clearly do not agree with me on all, but i can respect that. You really are the first person to come and voice your thought without acting to far one way or another.

Yes, Tim is one of the strongest voices of reason on this forum and I hope that one day when I read someone's post, I can look the other way when the OP calls fellow HOA members names, or states accusations etc. It seems that a lot of the people that come on here for help are perfectly ok with calling other HOA members names, throwing accusations around and thinking they can bully their point of view around, which is usually wrong. BUT when they hear blunt advice or that they need to stop crying, they can't handle it and turn on the people giving the advice they seek. Somehow Tim sees through that and that is to be applauded!

Yes, I hope that one day I too can ignore that and still be able to offer help like Tim has. I have learned quite a bit from several people on this board and you will as well.

hi steve, i also live in good old Myrtle Beach, SC. Our covenants read the same as yours. Our neighborhood is being fined up the ying yang for the boats and trailers. And it is being upheld by our HOA lawyer. Sorry, i know how you feel.

I am past this but that last thing about a gun is one of the most stupid comparsions i ever heard. The last time i check i never heard on stray boats and trailers in a community killing anyone. So dumb all i can do is laugh.