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MarqA (Michigan)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Our 13 home site condo has no common elements other than the primary road. Since I joined the Board I have boosted dues to assist in building up a reserve. I know it's just a question of time before somebody asks when do we have "sufficent reserve". Our expenses are reasonable, snow removal, lighting, insurance and some minimal road repair (sub is about 9 years old) and we're contributing a couple thousand per year.

Someday that will change and we will have to shell out $ to cover a significant repair. Should we build up the savings now or cut dues and face collecting lump sums when needed (I do not prefer this option). What factors do I consider to set what that "resonable amount" of available capitol should be?

CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
Most HOAs have two budgets. One account is for your operating expenses like the items you mentioned--snow removal, etc. Some of these you pay monthly and some annually (I guess).

Another is your reserves account in which $xx a year per owner is collected to replace or do major repair to items on your reserve schedule. If you only have a road that will require major repairs or replacement, you want to contribute enough so that you'll have funds available when the road wears outs.

To know how much to collect, you need to know how much longer the road is estimated to last and the estimated cost to replace it.

Let's say your reserves account is at $0, Your road will last 10 (more) years, and it will cost $10,000 to replace. This means owners will need to contribute a total of $1,000 a year to replace that road in 10 years. If you do this, it's said that your reserves are 100% funded even in year one. Another way to say this is "fully funded." At present, we build 3% inflation.

Now, $1000 a year + the additional contributions that owners must make to your operating budget might make $1000 per year too heavy a burden on owners. In that case, you could seek a smaller total each year, say $500. After year one, you'll be 50% funded. In a couple of years, you could increase the annual total for road replacement gradually to get closer to the needed amount by year 10.

If you don't start collecting for reserves, and your'e right not to want this, you all will indeed face a special assessment. Two groups dislike those. Owners are one! Lenders also don't like HOAs whose reserves are skimpily funded.

Are the street lamps your HOA's responsibility? If so, you'll want to reserve for them too, but the light bulbs would be a part of your operating budget.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Marq,

Welcome to the Forum.

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Posted By MarqA on 04/08/2014 1:24 PM

Should we build up the savings now or cut dues and face collecting lump sums when needed (I do not prefer this option).

Honestly, the determination if the Reserves will be fully funded or partially funded is typically left up to the membership. In my opinion, it's always best to have the Reserves fully funded. However, the member who is planning on moving in a few years likely wouldn't agree.

Once you know the amount you need for Reserves, lay out the options and let the membership decide. When we did our first Reserve Study, we needed to raise assessments by 20% in order to fully fund the Reserves. Fortunately, our membership agreed to this.

If your in an HOA, and more so if your in a Condominium, lenders are now looking at the financial health of the Association when determining if they will lend money and at what rate to buyers. If the lender believes that a special assessment is in the future and they have concerns about the potential buyer making the mortgage, regular assessments and a special assessment, they may not approve the loan. If this happens often enough, property in your development may stay on the market longer and/or require a lower selling price to have the loan approved.

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Posted By MarqA on 04/08/2014 1:24 PM

What factors do I consider to set what that "resonable amount" of available capitol should be?

There is no standard number for the amount to have in Reserves. This is because every Association is different and the life expectancy of the common elements can vary from area to area. The only way to determine the amount of Reserves your Association needs is to do a Reserve Study. If your common elements are minor, you can likely do a study yourself and be off to a good start. If you're in a condominium or have major common elements (pool, storm water retention pond, clubhouse, roads, etc.) it would be best to have a study professionally done.

You can learn more about Reserve studies from this thread: Subject: Reserve Studies/Funds 101

Hope this helps,

Tim
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:

Try to save the amount needed to fundamentally replace the road when it reaches end-stage. Yes, you'll likely never pull up the entire road, lay new gravel and top with asphalt, but over time, you will do it piece-meal.

Get the value of replacing the road - asphalt removal + new asphalt - as of 2014. Pick the year in the future when you could reasonably say the road needs comprehensive rehabilitation (2034?), set an inflation rate (2.5% or 3%) and see what the cost will be in that future year. Once you have that price - which is an estimated guess - divide the price by the number years left until you reach the end of life of that road. That will tell you how much to save annually until you hit the year at which an old road needs extensive asphalt work.

Example:

Your road would cost $100,000 to replace in twenty years or the year 2034.

In 2034, if inflation runs an average 3%, the road will cost an estimated $180,611.11 to replace

Since you have twenty years to save that amount divide 180,611.11 by 20 = $9,030.55 per year in savings....of course, round up to the dollar amount of your choice.

I would argue "sufficient reserves" is reached when you can replace that road in whole with no lump sum collections - $180,612 (but I'm conservative with savings because nothing works or costs as expected)
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Marq

Kelly's example is nuts on.

A few thoughts. If the road is only used by your 13 homes then the lifetime of the road would be much longer then a publically used road. I am assuming the road is private but has any thought been given to having the town take it over?

Hope this helps.
MarqA (Michigan)
Posts: 9
Posted:
Actually after I posted I found a couple of posts related to the cost study/analysis which is pretty much what I assumed was needed. I'll look into this, as mentioned it's pretty simple the road, mailboxes, and streetlights are all that we own!

Nobody to take over the roads, we're in a rual township so the county maintains them.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
Marq,

While mailbox replacement is certainly under Reserve Funds, check with the power company to see if you can rent your streetlights instead of own. We pay approximately $18/month for a few lamp posts w/ lights but don't assume any maintenance as it's included in the rental package. If it's financially feasible and possible to lease lighting, you can remove the cost of replacing those lights from your Reserve Fund and less the amount you must continually save.

Regarding private asphalt roads, a strong maintenance budget will let you keep that original asphalt for a many years beyond expected life. Maintenance isn't part of Reserves Funds, but you'll save real money by being proactive with asphalt.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Marq,

Since you do have roads/parking areas to maintain, be aware that costs for milling/paving (replacement) can vary a lot depending on the price of oil, the size of the job and the company hired.

When we last looked at costs in 2012 it ranged from $14 to $20 per square yard of road (we have about 12,000 square yards). Our milling and paving is scheduled in the Reserve Study for 2021. We are expecting the job to cost about $250,000.

What I'm saying is that even with a Reserve study, the actual cost of replacement can be higher than expected. Therefore, it's best to start saving now so a special assessment, if needed, is minimized.
MarqA (Michigan)
Posts: 9
Posted:
One final question then I'm good to move on this.

I'd like to at least make contact and get some estimates regarding the cost to have an outside study completed.

Who exactly does these?
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
You can do a internet search of Reserve Companies - Michigan or visit the CAI Michigan website http://cai-michigan.org/ and look under their Service Provider Directory for Reserve Professionals.

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CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
With Glenn, look for reserves study professionals that are certified by CAI (Comm. Assoc. Inst.) or by their own professional association, as Professional Reserves Analysts.

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