MichaelS51 (Florida)
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I would like to tell my story here to hopefully get some insight from other folks that have a bit more experience dealing with these types of situations. I'll try to leave out any conjecture in hopes that I can clearly present the facts and get some workable solutions.
Here is what we know. I live in a ~125 home gated community. It's been in place for many years with the same acting president for the past 5-6 years. Our community looks great, everything seems to be in order with the funds and how they are being allocated, so that's a plus. Recently, one of my neighbors decided that he was going to move out of the community and rent his home. We have 6 homes on our block and 3-4 of them are rentals. We've not had any bad experiences with rentals, so when we heard this, it didn't bother us. After a few weeks, it seemed that there was a lot of traffic, both vehicular and foot traffic going to and from the house. The residents are all males, ranging from 18-40ish. Our mailman asked who lived in the home and the tenants got very defensive. He asked us if we knew anything about it and we were in the dark. Putting two and two together, we assumed that the homeowner was renting his house to a Sober Living facility. The kicker in all of this is that the homeowner that's renting the home is also the HOA President.
Once we had our suspicions in place, went went to the annual HOA meeting and sat through quietly. I didn't want to make a stink or false accusations, so after the meeting, I took the President aside and asked him if he was running a Sober House and he said "Oh, not that I am aware of." I then asked if he was renting his home to individuals or if he was renting it to a corporation. He made it clear that he was renting it out to individuals.
A few weeks passed and there was little that could or should have been done during that time period. I asked, he answered, end of story. Then, last weekend, my wife was out walking our infant son around the block and there was a woman sitting outside the rental house. She stopped and chatted up the woman who explained that she just dropped off her 18 year old son for checkin. She gave us the name of the facility that was operating the sober house. We were able to go to their website and find pictures of his house. So it's now confirmed.
This is where it gets tricky. My issue is not with a sober house being in the neighborhood. Granted, I'm not thrilled about it, but at the end of the day, those folks that are utilizing that space are addicts that are looking for help and trying to fix their lives. I don't fault them and I agree that they should have access to to housing and not be relegated to the slums like some municipalities have done or tried to do. That being said, I'm not exactly pleased knowing there is a house 3 doors down from me that houses people for 30-90 days and sends them on their way. Not exactly the picture of a perfect neighbor. My issue is that the President of the HOA is the one that brought this element into the community, which, while ethically gray, I don't believe that he's broken any laws....well, perhaps some zoning laws, but I don't know enough about the number of folks living there to know for sure.
While the HOA President may not have broken any laws, I believe he's in hot water for some HOA related issues. #1- In our covenant, it states that home are to be restricted to residential use only. I am not sure if renting to a corporation would be considered "non-residential use" as there are people living there, so it would be no different than hiring a management company to find you tenants. The tenants just happen to be drug and alcohol addicts. #2 - Running a business from his home may be a violation of his fiduciary responsibility to the HOA, as he is no longer devoted soley to the well being of the neighborhood, as his business depends on being able to enact policies that will solidify his renting situation.
How would you handle the situation? We've only be homeowners in the neighborhood for about 3 years, so I'm not looking to publicly shame the HOA President, but I just don't think it's right that he sits on the board while creating a situation within his own residence that directly negativly impacts the community...and he doesn't even live here anymore!
Thanks for the read.
TL;DR - HOA President rented his home to a company that finds temporary housing for recovering drug and alcohol addicts. What can/should we do?
Here is what we know. I live in a ~125 home gated community. It's been in place for many years with the same acting president for the past 5-6 years. Our community looks great, everything seems to be in order with the funds and how they are being allocated, so that's a plus. Recently, one of my neighbors decided that he was going to move out of the community and rent his home. We have 6 homes on our block and 3-4 of them are rentals. We've not had any bad experiences with rentals, so when we heard this, it didn't bother us. After a few weeks, it seemed that there was a lot of traffic, both vehicular and foot traffic going to and from the house. The residents are all males, ranging from 18-40ish. Our mailman asked who lived in the home and the tenants got very defensive. He asked us if we knew anything about it and we were in the dark. Putting two and two together, we assumed that the homeowner was renting his house to a Sober Living facility. The kicker in all of this is that the homeowner that's renting the home is also the HOA President.
Once we had our suspicions in place, went went to the annual HOA meeting and sat through quietly. I didn't want to make a stink or false accusations, so after the meeting, I took the President aside and asked him if he was running a Sober House and he said "Oh, not that I am aware of." I then asked if he was renting his home to individuals or if he was renting it to a corporation. He made it clear that he was renting it out to individuals.
A few weeks passed and there was little that could or should have been done during that time period. I asked, he answered, end of story. Then, last weekend, my wife was out walking our infant son around the block and there was a woman sitting outside the rental house. She stopped and chatted up the woman who explained that she just dropped off her 18 year old son for checkin. She gave us the name of the facility that was operating the sober house. We were able to go to their website and find pictures of his house. So it's now confirmed.
This is where it gets tricky. My issue is not with a sober house being in the neighborhood. Granted, I'm not thrilled about it, but at the end of the day, those folks that are utilizing that space are addicts that are looking for help and trying to fix their lives. I don't fault them and I agree that they should have access to to housing and not be relegated to the slums like some municipalities have done or tried to do. That being said, I'm not exactly pleased knowing there is a house 3 doors down from me that houses people for 30-90 days and sends them on their way. Not exactly the picture of a perfect neighbor. My issue is that the President of the HOA is the one that brought this element into the community, which, while ethically gray, I don't believe that he's broken any laws....well, perhaps some zoning laws, but I don't know enough about the number of folks living there to know for sure.
While the HOA President may not have broken any laws, I believe he's in hot water for some HOA related issues. #1- In our covenant, it states that home are to be restricted to residential use only. I am not sure if renting to a corporation would be considered "non-residential use" as there are people living there, so it would be no different than hiring a management company to find you tenants. The tenants just happen to be drug and alcohol addicts. #2 - Running a business from his home may be a violation of his fiduciary responsibility to the HOA, as he is no longer devoted soley to the well being of the neighborhood, as his business depends on being able to enact policies that will solidify his renting situation.
How would you handle the situation? We've only be homeowners in the neighborhood for about 3 years, so I'm not looking to publicly shame the HOA President, but I just don't think it's right that he sits on the board while creating a situation within his own residence that directly negativly impacts the community...and he doesn't even live here anymore!
Thanks for the read.
TL;DR - HOA President rented his home to a company that finds temporary housing for recovering drug and alcohol addicts. What can/should we do?