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DorothyO (Washington)
Posts: 293
Posted:
We have a homeowner who, in the eight years I have been President, has had to be contacted twice a year when the assessments are due, to pay those assessments. All homeowners receive an invoice in December, a reminder of amount and due date with the annual meeting notice in January, and a third call for those who still have paid by the end of the grace period at the end of January. So, technically, we wind up contacting this homeowner six times a year to receive her annual assessments. In my first year, she was married and in the middle of a foreclosure. They owed the association $350. We worked with them, while they worked with the bank to keep their house, and we did get paid, and they kept their house. Shortly after, they got divorced, and ever since it has been this herculean effort to get her assessments. Each and every final time she is contacted her reason for not paying is she has been sick. But then she pays us in the eleventh hour of the grace period, without incurring a late fee. Because we ever only have one or two homeowners, at the most, who wait till the bitter end to pay, we would rather make a couple of calls over generating late fee notices. It has always worked. Until now.

Our enforcement procedures calls for step 1, after the grace period has been exceeded with still no payment, the homeowner receives a personal phone call from the President as a reminder and notice that she has 14 days to pay, before she receives her first written notice, which then also provides for another 14 days to pay, and then if still no payment, a third and final written notice is sent requiring a hearing before the Board, also within that 14-day time frame, to address the violation. If non-compliance remains unresolved after all the aforementioned has been followed, lien procedures are set in motion.

Yesterday, my neighbor came over and said Mrs.X, being childhood friends with his wife, texted his wife and told her of receiving the initial late fee notice, and the phone call, and asked whether we had any power make her pay? The answer was a swift, yes. Then she asked if my neighbor would talk to me, since she's sick with laryngitis, hence, the text. I learned my neighbors have helped her financially in the past. The gist of the conversation was if we would be amenable to some sort of payment plan for her. I told him that ever since the recession, HOA's have seen an steep increase of non-payment of assessments and foreclosures. And that the general advice has been to try to work out a payment plan, since receiving some money is better than receiving no money. I told him I would bring this to the Board and get back to Mrs. X.

I notified the Board last night, briefly, of the situation and suggested giving her four months to pay the assessments, till the end of July, which is the absolute final due date for everyone. Our assessments are $350/yr, in full or semi-annual at $175. I also suggested that this be a one-time contract. The VP suggested requiring her to set up automatic deposits from her account into ours every month, year after year. This is the extent of our shared thoughts on the matter until our meeting on Wednesday. Now, I am finally getting to my point! Sorry! I am a history major. Gotta have the history! I know for a fact that there are a few people who would love to pay monthly, one who lost his job three years ago, one a single mother, and one retired on a fixed income. To me the purpose of working with people for a payment plan is to give them some breathing room during a particularly difficult financial period. To me there is a difference between financial hardship and fiscal incompetence, the latter of which Mrs. X, given her historical pattern, seems to possess. To allow someone to pay monthly as long as they live here, when our Bylaws are clear about the payments in full or semi-annual, smacks of preferential treatment. Also, the deposits from her account to ours would have to be set up by her, which means they can also be cancelled by her. I am also not comfortable giving her our account number to give to her bank. So, before meeting with the Board, I thought I would turn once again to the good minds of HOATalk!

Advice? Thank you.

Dorothy

JayP3 (Florida)
Posts: 154
Posted:
[Additional] Monthly payments are how we have handled this in the past.

Regardless of what your assn. decides to do it should be documented in the form of a written policy.

The policy should be reviewed/approved by your legal counsel and cover the entire process from when secondary measures are to be commenced all the way through to foreclosure if your laws allow.
DorothyO (Washington)
Posts: 293
Posted:
Jay, I like the phrase "secondary measures." This classifies this payment plan for what it is, as opposed to the perennial monthly payments, which would become "primary measures," and not what we should be advocating.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By DorothyO on 03/03/2014 11:13 AM

Our enforcement procedures calls for step 1, after the grace period has been exceeded with still no payment, the homeowner receives a personal phone call from the President as a reminder and notice that she has 14 days to pay,

I think that this is a bad idea.
You need to protect the Association in case you ever have to lien, defend a lien or defend charges in court, and that protection is written documentation.

DorothyO (Washington)
Posts: 293
Posted:
Tim,
I document the time and date of the call, whether I left a message or not, or the content of the conversation if we talk. We have already amended our process when we sent out a first written notice of violation and, to the person, we got hammered for not at least reaching out to the homeowner in person. So we chose to do that. If the process does get to the first written notice, we document the time and date and content of the phone call, within the notice. At any point the homeowner is instructed to contact the Board if he/she feels any of this process has been made in error. If it ever does get to the point of a hearing before the Board, (which it hasn't) all previous contact will be presented and documented as well. If it ever gets to court we are confident we have the paper trail to support our actions.

Dorothy
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Dorothy

The late payment process should be written, legal, and followed. No matter any dues payment schedule, someone will want another plan as it better fits them. While I am all for working out a payment plan for those that fall behind it sounds like you all might be offering plans for anyone that wants a different one.

Personally I would knock off the phone calls and make everything written.

By all means compassionate, but your BOD has a business to run. Run it as such.

I would legally come down hard on a person that we worked out a payment plan with and they did not live up to it.

Hope this helps.

DorothyO (Washington)
Posts: 293
Posted:
Assessment payment procedures are clearly written in our Bylaws and our Resolutions. We have never worked out a payment plan for anyone, except when the one house was being foreclosed and the bank was the player in that one. This is why I am adamantly not in favor of entering into any long-term plan with this homeowner. I MIGHT be willing to consider giving her till the end of June, in four payments, which is when everyone has to have paid in full. After that, full enforcement procedure will be pursued, which in our association is placing a lien on the property. I realize this does not get our money unless she sells. Our documents also allow for legal action of course but does not specify to type. But I'm not saying we will work out a payment plan with her. Before anything is considered she will need to come before the Board. Quite frankly, I suspect she won't have a lot to offer that is any different from what she has always had as excuses for not paying until she gets threatened with a late fee.

My instinct tells me to cut this homeowner no slack precisely because of her consistent history in never paying on time and always being tracked down in the last day of the grace period. What the rest of the Board thinks is another story. The VP is a former President so, brusque, flippant, and quick to condemn. The Treasurer is more moderate and forgiving. I'm all about protocol and reason. Among us we wind up reaching consensus on issues on which we may disagree, with me, many, many times bringing information I received here to the table. So, I wanted, again, to get a broad spate of opinion from those of us who manage HOA's to bring to the Board.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
It sounds like this lady can’t afford her house if you’d had to pressure her every year to get the fees paid – and now she’s coming up with the “I’m sick” excuse again (laryngitis? Yeah, right). After this year, I think you have no choice, but to drop the hammer the next time she’s late – she’s lived in the community long enough to know what the rules are.

I like the idea of requiring her to set up automatic payments, but you may have to check with your documents to see if you can mandate how the payments should be made. I don’t think you have to provide your bank account number in order for her to set this up, but check with them to be sure.

If you do offer a payment plan, I agree with you that it should exceed one year – and I wouldn’t offer her another one. We had one homeowner who reneged twice on her payment plan and then she came to a meeting, begging us to waive the attorney’s fees and promising once again that she’d comply. We told her no – and eventually, she did bring the account current and has been doing fine ever since.

Here are some of the approaches our board takes with payment plans (written into the collection policy homeowner receive every year with the upcoming year’s budget)

Only the board has the authority to offer, amend or accept a payment plan (including those negotiated by our attorney) and its decision is final.

Payment plans do not preclude the Association from taking additional steps to protect its interests (e.g. filing a lien against the property until the account is paid up)

Payment plans must include regular assessments (we pay monthly) and must be paid via automatic debit from a bank account or credit card.

In some cases, the homeowner may have to pay 15% - to 25% of the amount due before the payment plan kicks in (this is based on past payment history and the total amount due)

If the homeowner fails to comply with any part of the plan, it will be cancelled immediately and not renewed. If the account isn’t already at the association attorney’s office, it’s sent there

You don’t mention if you have late fees – the Board might consider establishing them to encourage people to pay on time. Check your documents to make sure you can and then come up with something (you may need to check your state laws to see if there’s a cap of what you can charge). The idea of late fees is not to generate more money from the homeowners – it should help defray to costs of sending out late notices or phone calls. Ideally, it’ll be something that will prompt homeowners to consider if it’s best to pay the fee on time or pay an extra $25 or more. Hope this helps!


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
DorothyO (Washington)
Posts: 293
Posted:
Sheila, this is great. Thank you so much. And, yes, we do have late fees. Our covenants allow for no more than 12% of the amount due to be levied. So, at the minimum, $175 is due on January 1, with a 30-day grace period. After that the $21 late fee is assessed, and another 30 days provided for payment. After that, if still unpaid, it goes into our full-enforcement policy, with the aforementioned, 1st phone call w/14 days to comply, 1st written notice w/14-days to comply, and final notice, written, with a date scheduled to appear before the Board. The annual assessment of $350 is due in full by June 1, with a 30 day grace period, and again the 12% of amount due, as a late fee. Since at $175 must be paid in January, we never have had anyone owing more than that, except, the one time a house went into foreclosure, nine years ago. Did I mention ironically it was this woman's house? Anyway, We tried a fee system in the past and realized that if they are not going to pay the first fee, they aren't going to pay the second,third or fourth. We decided that an expedient movement towards legal action was the better motivator. But I am going to take your system to my meeting tomorrow. It's clear, thorough and exact. It's also helpful, considered and forceful to the homeowner without being heavy-handed or the opposite, overly solicitous.

Dorothy

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