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RebeccaS1 (New York)
Posts: 20
Posted:
I just saw another sad news story about a board trustee stealing from his condo association in Massachusetts. "Condo trustee Aaron Church has been charged with embezzling nearly $15,000 from the Mill Hill Condominium Association."

I have seen stories like this from all across the country. Are other board members concerned about the people who are serving with them? I am curious as to whether others are as concerned as me about all this stealing that his been in the news. Also, how about self serving deals and other things that your fellow board members may be doing. I am sick to my stomach about this.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
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As the economy gets worse, people will get desperate. And desperate people to desperate things. Checks and balances. Members and officers need to be all over the finances so when people get caught, they are charged criminally right away.

Typically people steal when they think no one is looking. Make sure everyone knows your looking.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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I learned the hard way while serving on my board never to let one person handle financial matters of any kind.

We let one board member deal with our old management company and our old law firm. The board member would report that some huge number of owners were delinquent but not give us any details and we made the mistake of not asking for the details. Most of the "delinquencies" were unpaid late fees ($15) that the management company never billed for. None of us knew how little was owed nor were we aware that the management company never billed for late fees, even when they billed for the following year's assessments. At this board member's urging, we turned everything over to the law firm for collection. The lawyers charged us about $175,000 to file 60+ lawsuits, few of which were ever served because the owners could not be found.

When it became clear that the law firm was bleeding us dry and producing no results, we had a lot of discussion about dropping the law firm. That same board member pleaded to keep the lawyers on the job. Finally the board voted 8-to-1 to dismiss the lawyers and the member in question resigned on the spot and stomped out.

I cannot prove it, but I strongly suspect that he was receiving kickbacks from the lawyers at our expense.

The mistake we made was to allow one person to deal with stuff the rest of us did not want to handle. We trusted one person's judgment when should have pressed for details before taking action.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Rebecca

From this and your past posts, I am beginning to think you are to "gun shy" to serve on your BOD. Might I suggest you re-consider serving.

DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
The article says that the trustee admitted to getting the money from ATM's using the condo's debit card between January 15th and January 29th. So what's the big deal? He was caught within days of the crime. That is what internal controls are supposed to do. There is no way to absolutely prevent theft. But good internal controls will insure that the crime is detected quickly, before catastrophic damage occurs.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,063
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Posted By RebeccaS1 on 02/11/2014 1:21 PM

Are other board members concerned about the people who are serving with them?

No.

I see those stories as the exception rather than the rule. You can not stop a thief who is determined to steal. However, you can put procedures in place that may deter a thief and have them look elsewhere.

For example, in our area we recently had multiple reports from members of vehicles being gone through and things stolen. The police have told us that they had received 20 such reports that day for our area. Gee, every report included the fact that the vehicle was not locked. Those who locked their vehicles, did not have a thief go through any belongings kept in the vehicle.

So, certainly be concerned about what you read and use those stories to help implement procedures that can minimize issues. Per the story, the Association had a debit card. Therefore, adopt a policy that the Association will not have debit or credit cards and all transactions will be paid by check. Yes, this can make some purchases harder to acquire. However, had the Association in the story had such a policy, perhaps they wouldn't have been a victim.

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Posted By RebeccaS1 on 02/11/2014 1:21 PM

Also, how about self serving deals and other things that your fellow board members may be doing.

Well, this is where other Board members and the general membership need to do their job. If the other Board members don't have the character to vote against such deals, then the last line of defense(so to speak) is the membership. The members are the checks and balances to the actions of the Board. Unfortunately, too many members don't attend meetings or read minutes of meetings that they don't attend. If the members participate and do their job of checking on the actions of the Board, issues might be caught and resolved early with minimal damage to the Association.

SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
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So what's the big deal? He was caught within days of the crime.


Most HOA's dont have good internal controls. People simply trust everything is good.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
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Posted By SteveM9 on 02/12/2014 4:29 AM
So what's the big deal? He was caught within days of the crime.


Most HOA's dont have good internal controls. People simply trust everything is good.

Then they get what they deserve.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Posted By DavidW5 on 02/11/2014 3:39 PM

That is what internal controls are supposed to do.

Too often inexperienced people fail to realize that there are controls. When I was in the self-storage business I witnessed first-hand two different sets of resident managers who somehow thought that if they pocketed cash payments instead of depositing them that no one would notice. Neither of them noticed that the computers that tracked all the daily payments were connected by modems to the main office and that the off-site supervisors knew to the penny how much should have been deposited.

In each case, about $4k was taken. In each case the husband lost his job, the wife lost her job, their families each lost the residence that was included with their job, they lost any opportunity to collect unemployment benefits, and they lost employment references. I wish I could also say they ended up in jail but lax law enforcement decided it was not a serious enough matter for the criminal justice system in either case. Still, the benefits each set of managers derived was clearly not justified by what cost them.

ChrisA13 (New Jersey)
Posts: 120
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Posted By RebeccaS1 on 02/11/2014 1:21 PM
I am sick to my stomach about this.

Rebecca:

You SHOULD be sick over this. This is your biggest investment. It's not a joke.

This "cancer" of theft around the nation shows just how "at the mercy" the owners of these COA/HOAs are to their board and those who serve them. If someone was acting in OUR BEST INTEREST as owners, laws would be lobbied that demand there should be full and total disclosure of every single penny spent on a monthly basis. Like a personal checkbook ledger given out EVERY MONTH (and at least three years worth to those seeking to buy into an association) so that issues and concerns can be addressed as they happen. Then. Immediately. If one cannot account for a $50,000 repair, someone would be able to challenge the expense. But the lawyers don't want that. Transparency would give rise to disputes which would give rise to challenges in the authority bestowed upon the BOD. And the BOD is in bed with the lawyers who make money as the association debt collectors. So COA/HOAs actually have no advocates.

The fact remains, people put their faith that the law and the governing documents protect them. It doesn't. And in my state, the State of NJ, there is no governing body that enforces the law as it pertains to my rights given to me via Title 15A, Condo Act, etc. The laws are there, but so what? What is done if they are broken? You think the Attorney General cares? He absolutely doesn't.

Sadly, the result of the violation of the laws and the crimes committed result in ruination on those who were foolish enough to buy into a COA/HOA. In all honesty, I think these associations should be deemed illegal because they aren't run like businesses and too many people are put at risk. Whereas you can simply move your money from a bad broker if you feel improper conduct is taking place, you can't just pick-up and go from a bad association. It's a huge cost to relocate and start over? Moreover, who wants to buy into a financial disaster?

HOAs/COAs will never be safe until they are made safe through total and absolute transparency of every single dime spent -- with full accountability/liability of those who keep the books -- enforced with the full might of the law. (Sadly, I'm dreaming.)

Check out this story... $400,000 stolen...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/15/police-say-property-manager-admitted-theft-suicide/2658553/
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,063
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Posted By ChrisA13 on 02/13/2014 6:46 AM

The fact remains, people put their faith that the law and the governing documents protect them.

And that of course would be the mistake.

As we all know, there are criminal laws and civil laws. The State enforces criminal laws. The parties involved enforce civil laws. Associations are covered under civil laws.

FrankS10 (Kansas)
Posts: 276
Posted:
Tim,

Chris is making some excellent points on many threads. I am willing to bet most people do not have a clue as to what goes on in their HOA.

What would you think if your HOA Board was controlled by the developers who created a company they used for their own business but also used to do the maintenance work for the common grounds of the HOA and did so without competitive bids and the one partner was the HOA's Treasurer and wrote the checks to the other partner's company when invoices were submitted for work? And that there was no confirmation that the work was done that most outside of the Board, if any, knew of. And, the Board did not require pre-approval of most work before invoices were submitted.

Would you love to run your company like that?

The same Treasurer also submitted the Proposed Budget each year with the services his partner provided growing in dollar amount though the actual physical areas were the same? And what would you think if there appeared to be a correlation in the growth in the number of dollars in revenue collected from new residents to the increase in the projected costs of the developer provided services? And what would you think after enough residents forced this change and the costs of the services fell by substantial amounts when new vendors, who were required to give bids, were hired?

When I saw the title of this thread, the word 'another' said everything to me!
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,063
Posted:
Frank,

I agree that Chris is making some excellent points.

I haven't personally dealt with a developer controlled Association. Therefore, I can't really respond that. However, I have learned from stories on this forum that there is little a member can do to affect changes in a Declarant controlled Association if the Declarant isn't willing to make those changes. Those are simply the terms of the contract (i.e. the CC&Rs) that is entered into when property is purchased.

FrankS10 (Kansas)
Posts: 276
Posted:
Tim,

There are things that can be done.

A) Force all of their actions to stay within controlling statutes.
B) Force the governing documents of the HOA to be enforced.
C) Educate the community as to how the HOA's affairs are being conducted so they cannot hide behind people's lack of knowledge.
D) Educate and inform those outside the community who may be of assistance in making needed changes.
E) Go public
F) Take legal action.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,063
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Posted By FrankS10 on 02/14/2014 9:14 PM

Tim,
There are things that can be done.

Frank, I'm not sure what you are referring to. I don't recall ever saying that there weren't things that could be done to correct various issues. Since you brought up some options, lets look at them:

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Posted By FrankS10 on 02/14/2014 9:14 PM

A) Force all of their actions to stay within controlling statutes.

That's a nice forceful statement but you didn't specify how you would force that to occur.

I for one, prefer to utilize the "force" of the membership. If the membership is apathetic, then I can do what I can do by attending meetings and, if needed, inform the membership of the issues (perhaps via newsletters) so they might step forward and vote the bums out that won't comply with statutes or simply not reelect them. To assist in making this change, I'll go knock on doors and send letters requesting others to 1) serve, 2) appoint me as their proxy or 3) do both. Of course, the best way to ensure that compliance occurs is to be part of the decision process, therefore, I would volunteer to serve on the Board and, if elected, be in a better position to see that the Association complies with the statutes. I also believe that this has the least unintended consequences for the Association. I also know that this works, as this is how I affected change in my own Association.

As the laws applicable to Associations are civil in nature, the other option, of course, is through legal actions. This will cost time, energy and money. The unintended consequences would be scaring off potential volunteers to serve on the Board and scaring off potential buyers. If there is a lot of legal action the buyers Realtors may actually discourage their client from even looking in your development.

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Posted By FrankS10 on 02/14/2014 9:14 PM

B) Force the governing documents of the HOA to be enforced.

See response to A)

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Posted By FrankS10 on 02/14/2014 9:14 PM

C) Educate the community as to how the HOA's affairs are being conducted so they cannot hide behind people's lack of knowledge.

HOW?

If the membership is apathetic, and not attending board or general membership meetings, they likely won't take the time to attend seminars.

You can certainly publish a newsletter and deliver it to the members. However, you can't be sure that they will actually read it. Additionally, you need to be careful in the wording of any newsletter as you can open yourself up to potential libel suits if you can't prove what you write.

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Posted By FrankS10 on 02/14/2014 9:14 PM

D) Educate and inform those outside the community who may be of assistance in making needed changes.

I expect that you mean politicians. Yep it can happen but it certainly won't happen overnight and possibly not even within 10 years. Heck it took me 3 years of educating the membership via newsletters before they even started to respond. It then took another year before any changes actually occurred.

If you mean a community ombudsman or other federal regulator (like the FHA or ADA) then, yes that one issue may be resolved. However, the root of the problem would still remain - the Directors who you made you solicit help from outside the community.

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Posted By FrankS10 on 02/14/2014 9:14 PM

E) Go public

Well, misery loves company as they say. Taking an Association issue public (by public I expect you mean the press) may help other Associations from going through the issues your Association is experiencing. It may even put pressure on your Board to change their action (or to take action) to remove the bad press. Depending how long the issue is in the news, it always has the unintended consequences I stated earlier.

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Posted By FrankS10 on 02/14/2014 9:14 PM

F) Take legal action.

Yep. The expensive, time consuming and typically life draining (from stress) action that is always available. Not only can one take legal action against their own Association to encourage compliance but they can take action against their neighbors to encourage compliance with a covenant violation.

Unfortunately, sometimes this is the only option that works. Again, it doesn't get rid of the root of the problem (the Directors who's action (or lack thereof) motivated you to take legal action. However, it may get the actual single issue resolved. Again, the unintended consequences include, discouraging others to volunteer to serve on your board, possible discouragement of potential buyers, potential of a special assessment to cover Association legal costs, the potential that such action can consume your life and may affect others around you (spouse, kids, friends, etc.).

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,063
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Posted By TimB4 on 02/15/2014 5:58 AM
Posted By FrankS10 on 02/14/2014 9:14 PM

Tim,
There are things that can be done.


Frank, I'm not sure what you are referring to.

I reread the thread. I see that you were referring to what one can do in a developer controlled community.

Well, as I stated earlier, I haven't gone through that so I can speak for sure. My earlier comments on the options you stated were toward membership controlled communities. I do think that many of my comments are still applicable. However, I know that all of them are not.

FrankS10 (Kansas)
Posts: 276
Posted:
Tim,

Reporting behavior to the controlling authorities helps maintain law abiding behaviors. Calling the behavior out every single time so they will at least think about their future actions also helps.

E-mails, Board meetings, talking with neighbors-this is how we inform them. It is never ending and people will most likely get annoyed, but I continue.

Get elected to the Board like we have, and you have an even bigger platform to communicate.

You already know these answers. I am no genius. It just takes tenacity, which I have a lot of
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,063
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Posted By FrankS10 on 02/15/2014 11:32 AM

You already know these answers. I am no genius. It just takes tenacity, which I have a lot of


FrankS10 (Kansas)
Posts: 276
Posted:
I can't even begin to imagine the potential for corruption in the states that do not require membership access to financials, or do not require open meetings etc. How about requiring HOAs to provide everything any publicly traded company has to?
ChrisA13 (New Jersey)
Posts: 120
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Posted By FrankS10 on 02/16/2014 6:16 AM
I can't even begin to imagine the potential for corruption in the states that do not require membership access to financials, or do not require open meetings etc. How about requiring HOAs to provide everything any publicly traded company has to?

How about when you have the law and no one to enforce the law? In NJ, you can write about no ADR, open record, Open Meetings Act to the NJ DCA until the cows come home. They do nothing. And the lawyers for the COAs/HOAs know this.

And there is no other governing body in place to enforce anything else... and those who could won't. You think you can get the NJ AG to step in to investigate a small corporation from stealing from its own? It doesn't hurt the state, so they couldn't care less. And do absolutely nothing even when they are informed.

Guess my state/county's been too busy with so many other suits against them from their own employees. County prosecutor sued and plaintiff won. Another suit pending against the same county and state in another employment matter. My state is too busy defending their own actions to ever worry about taking a proactive step to do their job to protect the people. Bridgegate, anyone? LOL!
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,063
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Posted By ChrisA13 on 02/16/2014 12:28 PM

How about when you have the law and no one to enforce the law?

As mentioned several times in this forum, in fact it was posted earlier in this thread, there are criminal laws and civil laws. The government enforces criminal laws and the parties involved enforce civil laws. Hence, there is always someone there to enforce civil law - the parties involved in the issue.

They enforce them either by working it out themselves or involving a third party (mediator or the courts) to rule on their disagreement.

In Associations, working it themselves may include compromise, voting the existing Directors out of office and replacing them with someone who will comply with the law or simply voting them out of office at the next election. Of course, you will always need to find individuals willing to serve that will comply with the law.

SG3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 63
Posted:
Yes!

And I agree with Chris.

Full transparency and accountability should be mandatory by law. There is a lot of money passing through associations and it is far too casual a setup. Anyone who objects to such a thing maybe shoildn't be involved on operations. I hope it all becomes more regulated and stringent.

We don't seem to have any control over our board as some people here discuss.

Loooong list of thefts. It is fertile ground for dishonest types.

http://hoareformcoalition.org/opinion/fraud-and-embezzlement-news-stories/

JM10 (California)
Posts: 503
Posted:
I'm all for transparency and if your board doesn't have it, then you should encourage it.

The articles should be used to urge everyone to be involved and ask questions. That means investigating for yourself and not taking someone else's word for it. Our former HOA decided to trust the three board members who were breaking the law and the results was three lost court cases and a substantial payout from the insurance policy (which only covered our legal costs). Those three board directors are still serving but we have left the HOA so I don't know who's watching over the board now. Even when the police came over and forced the lead director (treasurer) to return things he had stolen from us (by climbing up a ladder to our balcony), no one moved to remove him. From our perspective, the other owner/members are getting what they asked for.
KimberlyF1 (Ohio)
Posts: 1
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Yet another reason to demand the board carry a fidelity bond, whether or not it is legally required in your state. If a board member is not bondable, RED FLAG!-- kick the bums out!
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,063
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Kimberly,

Typically the Association carries the bond or obtains crime insurance in lieu of an actual bond. Having filled out paper work for the crime insurance, the companies don't ask for the names of individuals being covered. They simply want to know how many and if they are volunteers or being compensated.

Now, our bookkeeper (when we had one) was required to obtain their own fidelity bond as they were a contractor and not covered under the Associations crime policy.
PatriciaC6 (Virginia)
Posts: 25
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I guess this doesn't surprise me. After having multiple problems with my BODs I decided to start checking CC&Rs and ByLaws. Guess, what I found? One of the BODs is NOT a legal HO as is required in my HOA ByLaws. How did I find out? I went to the Assessors website, plugged in his name and NOTHING came up. So then I plugged in his address, and his wife's name came up. I went to the Co Recorder's office, thinking something must be amiss ... what I found was HE was not on the deed, the home is owned by his wife's trust. He is NOT a trustee or a beneficiary. When I presented this to the Board, they decided to skirt around the issue ... he is no longer a Director, but is a VP and holds a significant position. And, yes, that's all legal. I paid for a background check which is pretty much worthless, and found nothing alarming. However, I would appreciate ByLaws being followed, as it's more likely we would have an issue with a renter on the Board (and that's what he effectively is ... he pays the bills etc for his wife, but that doesn't make him a HO). Women generally have very good reasons when they don't have their husband on a deed. So I feel for you. I've learned the hard way, to look at the financials as close as I can, and to read the Board minutes which are written to put an enlightened spin on the BODs, not the HO. I hope your community is large and that loss is easily absorbed. My HOA is very small, and that could pose a significant hardship on some HOs.

To answer your question, YES I am very concerned about who is elected to the Board. IMHO, my Board President is a despot. He and the head of No Korea are interchangeable ... no one would notice, except my Board President is taller ... he might be able to play basketball with Denis Rodman. Heck, he and Rodman might be able to share the same wedding dress.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,063
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Patricia,

It's best to start a new thread than reactivate an old one.

As for your post, I'd like to make the following comments:

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Posted By PatriciaC6 on 04/27/2014 6:41 PM

One of the BODs is NOT a legal HO as is required in my HOA ByLaws. How did I find out? I went to the Assessors website, plugged in his name and NOTHING came up. So then I plugged in his address, and his wife's name came up. I went to the Co Recorder's office, thinking something must be amiss ... what I found was HE was not on the deed, the home is owned by his wife's trust. He is NOT a trustee or a beneficiary.

Most Associations expect that spouses are both on the deed. Unless there is reason to check, checks typically aren't done. Yes, they should be but the reality is, people only have, or are willing to donate, so much time to volunteer positions. Without assistance from others, things are missed or simply aren't followed.

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Posted By PatriciaC6 on 04/27/2014 6:41 PM

When I presented this to the Board,

My question would be, how did you present it?

Was it along the lines of, "you may not be aware of this but . . . and to help prevent it from happening in the future, I'm willing to volunteer to serve as inspector of elections or on the nominations committee

OR

Was it along the lines of "you may not be aware of this but . . . and it needs to be fixed.

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Posted By PatriciaC6 on 04/27/2014 6:41 PM

they decided to skirt around the issue ... he is no longer a Director, but is a VP and holds a significant position.

Perhaps the individual was taking their share, or more, of the Boards work load and the Board simply didn't want to lose that asset. If, when you brought the issue before the Board, you or anyone else didn't volunteer to fill the position and take on the duties, then why should the volunteers simply dismiss an asset and take on more work.

As an example, as Treasurer for my Association, I spend approximately 20 hours per month on Association business. That equates to a full month of my life per year. I do this without pay and am happy to do it but become frustrated when the same individuals are always late with their payments, causing me more work. Do you think that they care? I don't. Therefore, if, for some reason I was considered no longer eligible to serve, I suspect that someone would find a similar solution to keep me on. Mainly because no one would want to commit the time and it would cost at least $5,000 per year to hire someone to do just part of the job. More, if the whole thing were to be contracted out.

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Posted By PatriciaC6 on 04/27/2014 6:41 PM

And, yes, that's all legal.

Yep, that is right, it would be legal. What needs to be understood is that Directors and Officers are two separate positions. Often the same individual may fill both the Directors position and the Officers position at the same time. When that happens, it's the same as having two jobs. Many members, and Directors, don't always realize this.

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Posted By PatriciaC6 on 04/27/2014 6:41 PM

Women generally have very good reasons when they don't have their husband on a deed. So I feel for you. I've learned the hard way, to look at the financials as close as I can, and to read the Board minutes which are written to put an enlightened spin on the BODs, not the HO. I hope your community is large and that loss is easily absorbed. My HOA is very small, and that could pose a significant hardship on some HOs.

To answer your question, YES I am very concerned about who is elected to the Board. IMHO, my Board President is a despot. He and the head of No Korea are interchangeable ... no one would notice, except my Board President is taller ... he might be able to play basketball with Denis Rodman. Heck, he and Rodman might be able to share the same wedding dress.

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Posted By PatriciaC6 on 04/27/2014 6:41 PM

Women generally have very good reasons when they don't have their husband on a deed.

Actually, when I was soliciting signatures to add similar qualifications to serve as Director in my Association, I learned that most don't place them on the deed because it's a second marriage and this keeps the kids happy. Other reasons I was informed about were financial reasons (or ways to minimize taxes). In fact, I know of many older couples who simply live together (vs. getting married) as it's financially better for their circumstances to do this.

What reasons were you eluding to?

Oh, upon learning this, I chose to not go forward to have those restrictions become adopted.

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Posted By PatriciaC6 on 04/27/2014 6:41 PM

I've learned the hard way, to look at the financials as close as I can

I would have thought your previous job, that of working in a mortgage office, would have instilled that upon you vs. learning "the hard way."

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Posted By PatriciaC6 on 04/27/2014 6:41 PM

and to read the Board minutes which are written to put an enlightened spin on the BODs, not the HO.

Depends who writes them.
The minutes are the official record of the Association and should simply state the facts and decisions. Often, when a Secretary or Board record more than that in the minutes, it tends to work against the Association.

This is from the The Fairfax County (VA) Community Association Manual on minutes:

Too often, meeting minutes become lengthy with the intent of being thorough and correct. The purpose of a meeting is to conduct the business of the association; and the minutes should record what was done or decided, and not what was said or by whom. The minutes should never reflect upon the character, emotion, or personality of any person, or give the secretary’s opinion, favorable or otherwise, on anything said or done in the meeting. For important motions, however, the name of the mover should be recorded along with the exact final wording, including amendments, upon which the subsequent vote is taken. The recording secretary should be familiar with “Minutes and Reports of Officers” of Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised, 10th Rev. edition (November 14, 2000). Meeting minutes, including motions, amendments and votes should be signed and dated by the president or secretary once they have been approved, and should be kept in a binder, file or “book of minutes” for later reference. It may also be helpful to file copies of meeting notices, financial statements, committee reports, and other documents along with the minutes, making them part of the association’s official records. Complete minutes can be valuable to an association should it need to document or defend its actions.

Perhaps you could volunteer your time to serve as Secretary. This way, you can be sure the minutes are written properly and not skewed toward anyone or anything but the facts.

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Posted By PatriciaC6 on 04/27/2014 6:41 PM

To answer your question, YES I am very concerned about who is elected to the Board. IMHO, my Board President is a despot.

Patricia, again, you need to shift your focus to the entire Board. The President was just the messenger. They may or may not have been the deciding factor in your issue but issues are decided by majority vote. This means that others had to agree with the President (if the President was the cause) in order for anything to occur.

Focusing on one individual vs. the entire Board can be detrimental in your cause to correct the problems you see as your actions can be seen as a personality conflict vs. actual issues.

Again, it's best to start a new topic than to reactivate an old one.

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