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RodgerG1 (Missouri)
Posts: 10
Posted:
I live in farmington, Mizz and there is no leash law that I am aware of for the state or city. Now my community has a strict leash law and I'm looking for some advice on a recent situation I had in my neighborhood. A woman was walking her lab by my house yesterday and my dog, a small cockapoo comes running out barking and wagging his tail. He busted out of my door which was slightly cracked while i swept the front porch. My dog gets within about 2 yards barking at the dog and it pulls his owner to get to mine and viciously attacks poor Buster. Now I know that I am sort of at fault but at the same time my dog was hurt and hers was fine and mine came out of my house unexpectedly. So now i got fined by my community for him not being on a leash even though it wasn't really my fault! Is there any way to fight this or will I just lose? Any advice is appreciated.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Request a hearing on the issue before your Board.
Explain the issue at the Hearing.

If this is the first time your dog has been off the leash, the Board may waive the fine.

If this isn't the first time your dog has been off the leash, the Board likely won't waive the fine.

RodgerG1 (Missouri)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Tim,

Thank you! I will definitely look into doing that. The thing is that dog has been in quite a few scuffles with other dogs and has to wear a muzzle now when walked. I guess the muzzle wasn't on properly and he was able to get a hold of my dog pretty good. I'm definitely going to talk to the board and see if I can get it waived.
ReneeC2 (Florida)
Posts: 93
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I hope the board is kind and lets you away with it, but it is actually your fault if your dog left your property without a leash. That's what you are being ticketed for. I've actually had what you speak of happen to me 3 times. I was however, the one with the leash when the small dog came running out their owner's door. Twice was with this same dog and they were warned they would have to leave the property on the third. The fault isn't going to fall on the one with the leash if your dog left their property and they did not enter yours. Sometimes, even the best of dogs don't get along with other dogs, that doesn't make them "a mean dog".

That's just the leash issue and who is at fault there, but as a community, I would address the ability of the lady to handle her dog. She sounds like she is a liability.

JM10 (California)
Posts: 503
Posted:
This is probably two separate issues.

You need to have better control of your dog (didn't return to you on recall after bolting out of your door). A small cockapoo "busted out" of your door? You might consider having a dog gate just in front of your door inside or just outside your door in the future.

There might be an issue of damage to property. Your dog/property has hurt/damaged. Did you incur cost?

Probably both dogs here need to be better trained.
RodgerG1 (Missouri)
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Posted By ReneeC2 on 01/24/2014 8:20 AM
I hope the board is kind and lets you away with it, but it is actually your fault if your dog left your property without a leash. That's what you are being ticketed for. I've actually had what you speak of happen to me 3 times. I was however, the one with the leash when the small dog came running out their owner's door. Twice was with this same dog and they were warned they would have to leave the property on the third. The fault isn't going to fall on the one with the leash if your dog left their property and they did not enter yours. Sometimes, even the best of dogs don't get along with other dogs, that doesn't make them "a mean dog".

That's just the leash issue and who is at fault there, but as a community, I would address the ability of the lady to handle her dog. She sounds like she is a liability.


Well they were on my sidewalk and the cockapoo "busted out" because I trained that little guy to attack. Last time Buster got out he brought a hooker down to her knees with one swift bite. I must say I was impressed. I just was wondering if I was at fault or if it was more of the lady who couldn't hold her dog back and if I should ask for the board to make her pay since it really is her fault.
JM10 (California)
Posts: 503
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Posted By RodgerG1 on 01/24/2014 5:05 PM
Posted By ReneeC2 on 01/24/2014 8:20 AM
I hope the board is kind and lets you away with it, but it is actually your fault if your dog left your property without a leash. That's what you are being ticketed for. I've actually had what you speak of happen to me 3 times. I was however, the one with the leash when the small dog came running out their owner's door. Twice was with this same dog and they were warned they would have to leave the property on the third. The fault isn't going to fall on the one with the leash if your dog left their property and they did not enter yours. Sometimes, even the best of dogs don't get along with other dogs, that doesn't make them "a mean dog".

That's just the leash issue and who is at fault there, but as a community, I would address the ability of the lady to handle her dog. She sounds like she is a liability.



Well they were on my sidewalk and the cockapoo "busted out" because I trained that little guy to attack. Last time Buster got out he brought a hooker down to her knees with one swift bite. I must say I was impressed. I just was wondering if I was at fault or if it was more of the lady who couldn't hold her dog back and if I should ask for the board to make her pay since it really is her fault.

Your dog was off-leash and out of your control. Her dog was on-leash and apparently out of control. Two points against you and one against her. It was your fault that your dog got out of the house. If both dogs had been well-trained the dog fight might have been avoided.
ReneeC2 (Florida)
Posts: 93
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Posted By RodgerG1 on 01/24/2014 5:05 PM
Posted By ReneeC2 on 01/24/2014 8:20 AM
I hope the board is kind and lets you away with it, but it is actually your fault if your dog left your property without a leash. That's what you are being ticketed for. I've actually had what you speak of happen to me 3 times. I was however, the one with the leash when the small dog came running out their owner's door. Twice was with this same dog and they were warned they would have to leave the property on the third. The fault isn't going to fall on the one with the leash if your dog left their property and they did not enter yours. Sometimes, even the best of dogs don't get along with other dogs, that doesn't make them "a mean dog".

That's just the leash issue and who is at fault there, but as a community, I would address the ability of the lady to handle her dog. She sounds like she is a liability.



Well they were on my sidewalk and the cockapoo "busted out" because I trained that little guy to attack. Last time Buster got out he brought a hooker down to her knees with one swift bite. I must say I was impressed. I just was wondering if I was at fault or if it was more of the lady who couldn't hold her dog back and if I should ask for the board to make her pay since it really is her fault.

Your dog was out of your control when it busted out the door. I doubt the sidewalk is yours, so that won't even come into the equation. Your situation is very similar to mine. I was on the sidewalk in front of the ladies house when her Jack Russel came out and attacked my dogs. If she was on your sidewalk, it's not like the dog dragged her across the street. She was right in front of your house.... on "your" sidewalk, so your dog came right up to it. If both dog's fight, it will be the unrestrained dog's fault. They will not blame the attacked dog, as they are merely defending themselves. And you can't use the argument Foo Foo was wagging her tail, that will be left to the expert animal behaviorist. You may feel you are an expert where your dog is concerned, but that won't mean diddly squat. Most people don't have dogs that will let others dogs threaten it without reacting somehow. The owner of the Jack tried to blame it on me because I was in front of her house. She failed miserably. I was deemed right on every single point.

A lot of hookers and drugs around here lately.

It doesn't matter if the questions are not legit, they still bring up interesting topics for discussion.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
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So now i got fined by my community for him not being on a leash even though it wasn't really my fault!


Well it certainly wasnt the dog's fault. You are the owner. You need to do a better job controling your dog.

I have a dog gate in the hallway before my door. There is zero chance she can run for the door. When I had an aggressive dog, I never let it visit with other dogs even on a leash. The dog was never off leash, ever.

You should take obedience classes with your dog. It will teach "you" how to control your dog and read danger signals from other dogs.
AnitaC5 (South Carolina)
Posts: 16
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Posted By RodgerG1 on 01/24/2014 5:05 PM
Posted By ReneeC2 on 01/24/2014 8:20 AM
I hope the board is kind and lets you away with it, but it is actually your fault if your dog left your property without a leash. That's what you are being ticketed for. I've actually had what you speak of happen to me 3 times. I was however, the one with the leash when the small dog came running out their owner's door. Twice was with this same dog and they were warned they would have to leave the property on the third. The fault isn't going to fall on the one with the leash if your dog left their property and they did not enter yours. Sometimes, even the best of dogs don't get along with other dogs, that doesn't make them "a mean dog".

That's just the leash issue and who is at fault there, but as a community, I would address the ability of the lady to handle her dog. She sounds like she is a liability.



Well they were on my sidewalk and the cockapoo "busted out" because I trained that little guy to attack. Last time Buster got out he brought a hooker down to her knees with one swift bite. I must say I was impressed. I just was wondering if I was at fault or if it was more of the lady who couldn't hold her dog back and if I should ask for the board to make her pay since it really is her fault.

There is no "My Sidewalk" just as one may say "My Street" which is the street I live. The comment "because I trained that little guy to attack" is troublesome. You trained your dog to act aggressively, but you have NOT trained your dog to return when called, or be called off. My dog learned the command "wait" where he stops where he is. You could have avoided this mid yard with some positive training. Hooker or Nun no one deserves to walk down THE sidewalk, minding their business, and have your attack cockapoo, bust out and get 'em. YOU did this to your dog.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
Posted:
under the majority of state / county animal control law:

the animal's owner must have the animal under their direct custody and control at all times

use a leash

or

train to: sit - heel - stay - come under ANY circumstance

if YOUR dog attacked, YOU ARE IN THE WRONG

if YOUR dog ESCAPED and did not COME when called, YOU ARE IN THE WRONG

if you were in Horry County, SC and your dog ran at me - your dog would have been shot dead LEGALLY, and you would have been fined for all associated costs

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