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MarkC18 (Ohio)
Posts: 28
Posted:
I am in Columbus, OH. Our Code of Regulations state that all board meetings require a President or Vice President to be present. (I think there are also laws requiring this??) We currently ONLY have three trustees and that is it, no President, Vice President or Treasurer. Is our board entitled to approve increases on our current years dues? Can they even set dues since the meetings are not being held as our rules indicate? We have been 6 months without a president and 5 years since we had a vice president and several years since we had a Treasurer.

Additionally I paid a special assessment 3 years ago, March 2010. We recently found out our articles of incorporation were not being followed and they had no right to charge us. I believe I have the right to get that money back but I don't know if there is a time frame.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
Posted:
you need RIGHT NOW:

to seek the advice of an attorney who specializes in CONTRACT LAW

and / or

to petition the appropriate court to appoint a receiver for the HOA corporation until it 'gets back on it's feet, and operates according to OHIO not-for-profit corporate law

however, IN MY OPINION (repeat: opinion) the 3 trustees would, de facto, be the 3 officers ~ let your attorney sort all this out

Remember:

w/o the corporation there exists PERSONAL LIABILITY for all the HOs
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Mark have you stepped up to serve on the Board? Perhaps as president.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
BTW improper or not, if the Board had to hold a SA to raise funds to do X, where do you expect them to get the funds to pay you and your neighbors back from?

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
MarkC18 (Ohio)
Posts: 28
Posted:
I prefer the HOA be disolved. The bottom line is they are not following the laws of Ohio or of the Articles of incorporation. No one wants the job because our HOA sucks. As far as how would they have money to pay me back... not my problem because they should have done their research before demanding money.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MarkC18 on 01/04/2014 6:04 AM

I am in Columbus, OH. Our Code of Regulations state that all board meetings require a President or Vice President to be present. (I think there are also laws requiring this??) We currently ONLY have three trustees and that is it, no President, Vice President or Treasurer. Is our board entitled to approve increases on our current years dues? Can they even set dues since the meetings are not being held as our rules indicate? We have been 6 months without a president and 5 years since we had a vice president and several years since we had a Treasurer.

Mark,

In most states there is usually a provision in the statutes that says something to the effect that failure to abide by technical requirements does not invalidate an action by the board.

I read a lot of "us versus them" or maybe just "me versus them" into what you wrote. Nothing you provided indicates that you have done anything to remedy the problems you complain of. Have you sought a seat on the board? Have you tried to amend your CC&R's? Have you volunteered to serve as President?

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Posted By MarkC18 on 01/04/2014 6:04 AM

Additionally I paid a special assessment 3 years ago, March 2010. We recently found out our articles of incorporation were not being followed and they had no right to charge us. I believe I have the right to get that money back but I don't know if there is a time frame.

Any attempt at recovering your payment would likely be barred by the doctrine of laches, which prohibits bringing an action where the plaintiff knew he had a cause of action, unreasonably delayed making his complaint, and the other party is prejudiced by that delay.

If you had reason to believe that the assessment was somehow illegal, you should have made your objection known at the time. Instead, you not only remained silent but you actually paid the assessment without protest. Your board most likely spent that money long ago on behalf of the association so that refunding it would not be possible . . unless they had another special assessment.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
OK, somewhere in your CC&R's should be the mechanism to dissolve your HOA. It usually requires the affirmative vote of between 95-100% of all homeowners. This also may require the approval of any first mortgage holders, then you will need to dissolve the corporation that is the HOA and distribute any monetary assets. If the HOA has any common elements i.e. water retention pond, entrance marker and the land they occupy, you will need to get someone (the city) to take responsibility for them. To pay for that the city may set up a special taxing district, basically you will pay your HOA dues to the city as extra taxes to maintain the things the HOA does now. Then after all of that is done, you will need to remove the deed restrictions or any of your neighbor could still take you to court to enforce them.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
EllieD (Vermont)
Posts: 446
Posted:
MarkC18, Would you be willing to provide some additional information?

How large is your Association? Approximately how old (when established)? How long have you lived there?

You wrote “we have three (3) trustees”. How many should there be? Are you self managed, or is there a management company? In your Association do the Owners vote for the trustees, and then the elected trustees vote to elect, or decide among themselves, who is going to assume which Officer positions?

Apparently the Board is functioning and meeting? What is it they are not doing? Do you know if Minutes of the Meetings are being kept?

Would you expand upon your statements “and they had no right to charge us” and “not my problem because they should have done their research before demanding money”.

Re budgets and assessments, most Associations I know, need to increase dues annually to keep up with increased costs. Why was a special Assessment necessary? Was it because there was no, or not enough, money in a reserve fund?
GnomeX (Washington)
Posts: 253
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Posted By MarkC18 on 01/04/2014 5:39 PM
I prefer the HOA be disolved. The bottom line is they are not following the laws of Ohio or of the Articles of incorporation. No one wants the job because our HOA sucks. As far as how would they have money to pay me back... not my problem because they should have done their research before demanding money.

LOL sounds like the type I am dealing with at my HOA. They blame everyone but themselves.

The people are the HOA.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
HOA dissolution will not happen if there are "landmark" amenities in the community. If there's so much as grass to be mowed, the consideration makes zero sense and Mark's philosophy will never mesh with an HOA community. The people who know the "HOA sucks" should step and join the board, thus entering the proverbial battle. For the effort to sue for assessment refund or dissolve the HOA, you could fix the neighborhood.

JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
Posted:
100% correct

however, HOAs do, in fact, 'suck'

still, after buying a property with covenants attached to the deed, you no longer have a choice ~ YOU JOINED

deal with it

or

MOOOOOVE

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