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LisaH9 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Hi everyone, I have a question, we have had an investor buy several units and become majority owner in our small 24 unit condo complex. These new owners are seriously trying to throw their weight around demanding ridiculous assessments and such. They are not running meetings correctly like providing no minutes to prior meetings and such. When we asked about these things we were told that there are different rules for HOA's as opposed to Horizontal Property Regimes. they told us there does not have to be any CC&R's on file with the county. Doesn't sound legit to me.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Lisa,

Is your Association incorporated? If it is, then they Association must also comply with applicable corporate laws.

LisaH9 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5
Posted:
They are registered as a non profit
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Lisa,

My understanding is that the Statement of Horizontal Regime is required to create a condo. That document will lay out such things as what is the private property of the owner and what are the common elements and the basics of how the association will operate.

Technically, the investors are correct in stating that there are no CC&R's recorded. That is because the Statement of Horizontal Regime takes the place of CC&R's. I suspect that there is a recorded Statement of Horizontal Regime. In states where there are statutes it is not uncommon for them to enact different laws for condos than for HOA's.

LisaH9 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5
Posted:
All we have is a master deed and bylaws, we have no statement of horizontal regime.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Lisa

The SC Horizontal Property Act applies to apartment style condo buildings. It does not apply to townhomes nor single home associations. Tim has given you links to applicable documents. A bill to control other type associations has been dead in a SC Senate Committee for several years. Some, myself included, work to keep it dead but that is another story.

The SC Articles of Incorporation is riddled with the statement "unless Corporation Bylaws say otherwise". In general, SC does not like to interfere with how corporations operate. They generally defer to the corporation Bylaws.

The answers/procedures as to how your corporation/association should operate will be in your association Bylaws. Bylaws can be different from association to association. Read and understand them.

If your association is being controlled by a BOD of elected fellow owners (be they investors or not) your main recourse is to replace them. You should work toward electing new BOD Members that think/operate as you would like.

If no laws are being broken, do not look for the state of SC to aid you.

Hope this helps.

JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
A condominium and a Horizontal Property Regime are different names for the same thing. When your master deed was recorded, that established the Horizontal Property Regime.

There is probably a statement near the beginning of your master deed that states the property is being submitting to a Horizontal Property Regime, and there should also be a statement that the master deed is pursuant to the SC Horizontal Property Act. Can you find that statement in your master deed?

The investors are right that it is not the same as an HOA and they do not have to comply with HOA laws, but they do have to comply with the SC Horizontal Property Act and the SC nonprofit laws.

They also have to comply with your master deed and bylaws. Do they have enough percentage of ownership to amend the master deed or bylaws, usually 2/3?
JH3 (Maryland)
Posts: 67
Posted:
I would caution to make sure that the property is actually a nonprofit. Most associations are not nonprofit. Most associations are not-for-profit, which is an entirely different legal definition. These two entity types are commonly confused and it causes problems quite often.
LisaH9 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5
Posted:
It is a non profit. We have one majority owner of this 24 unit complex, he owns 17 of them and is now bullying us and not taking proper votes on all business, I guess since he is majority anyway he thinks he doesnt have to
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Owning 17 out of 24 gives them over 70% voting interest. Depending on your Associations governing documents, this may give them enough of the voting power to amend the governing documents as they desire.

Although you can spend money and have the courts order that the Association follows proper procedure, with that much voting power, it wouldn't change the outcome. It would only force the individual to jump through hoops.

They may be "bullying" you to try and encourage you to move so they can purchase the rest of the property.

LisaH9 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5
Posted:
I actually would jump for joy if they would purchase my property, they have already made me an offer which is 8,000 dollars less than i am willing to accept. I am challenging them on every single issue in an attempt to just give me the price I want to get rid of me!
LauraR5 (Tennessee)
Posts: 220
Posted:
Horizontal property regime is the type of development. The Homeowners Association is the organization which manages the operation of that development.

It does sound like the developer is bullying folks to get them to take the low-ball offers and move. If you want to stay, you can, but until they sell some of their units, they are going to be in charge.

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