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SaraW3 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Could really use some help here!

We have a wonderful management company...the best we've ever had. The previous President (who was very negative and left because it was too stressful) and the one before that, who was ousted due to bullying nasty behavior (before I moved here) are now, independently, trying to over through the current Board.

One issue they have is that I am on the Board (Small Board, only 3 for 37 Unit) and also a Real Estate Agent. The past president asked me to join the Board knowing full well I was an agent. I've served on the Board for 2 years and now it is felt that it is a conflict of interest.

The president before that, the bully, is now going door to door to solicit votes to over throw the Board...which as one Board member says, is the best it has been in years! We've finally done a reserve study and a plan is in place. In his day, he had a lacky management company he man handled, spent money without Board approval, and generally broke every rule in the book but no one stood up to him. He is not in good standing, with years of late fees unpaid and recently a fine.

Thankfully, one "anonymous" neighbor sent a letter to all homeowners outing him for past bad behavior and told owners that he went to the management company to see what was going on....this all started with the Announcement of our Annual Meeting on November 15th...there's been solicitation from both parties spreading "assumptions and rumors" that we've done nothing.

The truth of the matter is that we've just decided and worked out a plan that took months to work out, to have all building refurbished, which they have needed for years...but only patchwork had been done.

Needless to say we have worked so so hard and now there are negative forces trying to undermine everything we've done.

Any suggestions of how to handle these "negative Nancy's" would be greatly appreciated. Both of them are just angry people by nature, and angry at life itself.

MANY THANKS!

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
You fight negative information with positive information, the best plan in the world will come to naught if no one knows about it.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By GlenL on 10/26/2013 8:37 PM
You fight negative information with positive information, the best plan in the world will come to naught if no one knows about it.

I agree.

Sara

You said you just worked out a plan for refurbishing all buildings. Send out a letter outlining it and tooting the BOD's horn for doing it.

If the past presidents are as bad as you say and people know it, I would not be concerned with them.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Hard work speaks for itself. You don't ever have to defend it. People are not always blind to what is going on. Bad mouthing the ex-president is NOT going to help your case much either. It's best to just let what you all do and plans do the work for you all. Stop wasting time and energy on this other guy. There will be plenty of that if he returns to office to fight.

I would start having some positive stuff come out or even have a "Volunteer day". Something that will bring people together to see things. Show them the results. It may be cleaning an area up or having a potluck. Something that shows people that there is a sense of community and people in it that care. The others with selfish intentions will never win at that. Good luck!

Former HOA President
SaraW3 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Thanks everyone for their advice and great ideas!

I totally agree with everything you've said...the Board is having a quick mtg this afternoon and will work on a letter to all homeowners, which we were going to do before the Annual Mtg on Nov 15th anyway, but expand the information and let them know all good things are happening.

We do need a sense of community, I've only lived here not even 3 years, and it's not good....I was thinking, and now will offer, to host an Holiday Open House for all resident (thank goodness there are only 37 Units!) and keep pushing the positive.

I'm on optimistic person by nature, and don't want us to loose the great momentum we've got going, although it would be easier to say enough is enough and quite...but I think it's too important to do so.

I'll keep you posted...

ALSO...no one had a comment on the Conflict of Interest issue regarding me being a Realtor....do you know of any such thing? Other Agents I know say most complexes find it a plus...so not sure what this is all about!

Thanks tons....Will keep you posted.

Sara
PeterD3 (Florida)
Posts: 708
Posted:
Your "interest" as a board director is to maintain and enhance your community.

Your "interest" as a Realtor is to make a living (though you may wish to help people too).

So long as you do not use your director position to make a living at the expense (proverbial) of the community there can be no conflict.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Some people have a skewed view on realtors or lawyers being on their HOA board. Is it justified? It depends on their actions. It should be known that yes you are a realtor but when your in the HOA you are just a member like everyone else. You just may have some more "insight" on home value issues. Your background like everyone else can help contribute to making the HOA work. Don't make it an issue. If someone has an issue with it, ask them specifics. They usually back down when you answer them directly.

My best event was an organized Halloween party/trick or treating event. I had all the kids old enough to trick or treat to meet at a certain time. That way the people knew those were the kids from the HOA and NOT from outside. Plus it let the people make better plans for that night. It lets the owners know they took care of "their kids" and can go on with any other social plans. A good time to also talk to the neighbors in a friendly environment wearing a mask...(LOL)

Former HOA President
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By SaraW3 on 10/27/2013 8:24 AM

ALSO...no one had a comment on the Conflict of Interest issue regarding me being a Realtor....do you know of any such thing?

We have had individuals who were also Realtors on our Board.

Unless you are specifically sending Association business your direction, I don't see it as a conflict of interest.

Many individuals who know that they don't have facts that can stand on their own will simply toss out key words and tricky phrases to try and elicit emotions from those they are talking to. Rarely will they quantify those words and phrases which leaves the listener free to fill in their own interpretation of what those words mean to them.

It's a tactic.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Tim you mean like this?

Part of American political lore is the Smathers "redneck speech," which Smathers reportedly delivered to a poorly educated audience. The "speech" was never given; it was a hoax dreamed up by one reporter. Time Magazine, during the campaign, falsely claimed that Smathers said this:

Are you aware that Claude Pepper is known all over Washington as a shameless extrovert? Not only that, but this man is reliably reported to practice nepotism with his sister-in-law, he has a brother who is a known homo sapiens, and he has a sister who was once a thespian in wicked New York. Worst of all, it is an established fact that Mr. Pepper, before his marriage, habitually practiced celibacy.


Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Glen,

LOL Not exactly. However, you got the idea.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TimB4 on 10/27/2013 3:57 PM
Posted By SaraW3 on 10/27/2013 8:24 AM

ALSO...no one had a comment on the Conflict of Interest issue regarding me being a Realtor....do you know of any such thing?


We have had individuals who were also Realtors on our Board.

Unless you are specifically sending Association business your direction, I don't see it as a conflict of interest.

Many individuals who know that they don't have facts that can stand on their own will simply toss out key words and tricky phrases to try and elicit emotions from those they are talking to. Rarely will they quantify those words and phrases which leaves the listener free to fill in their own interpretation of what those words mean to them.

It's a tactic.

Do you still beat your wife?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
No John. That's simply a direct question.

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of "I did not realize when I purchased in an HOA I was signing away my US Constitutional Right" which we already discussed in this thread.

If you want recent examples, just watch the political commercials and then take the time to actually investigate the facts on your own, i.e.: Trust but verify.
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
I agree with everyone else. Harf work and honesty should speak for itself.

As for you being a real estate agent, I don't see any real conflict unless there were situations that would place you and your business at an unfair advantage.

For instance, there is an agent here that likes to involve themselves with all the HOAs. As president of one HOA he would use his copmmunity newsletter to drive business for himself using it as free advertising and would steer projects towards his investment properties (such as getting funds to improve land around his homes.

That said, There are many things a real estate agent can bring to the table.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
Sara,

I would question why your board is so silent in terms of engaging its community that two ex-officers would apparently affect such a sway in local opinion. It seems your political foes are more accessible than the "good guys" that currently serve on the board and have a management vision. That vision needs to be articulate independently of a couple of neighborhood gossips. Your board has a lot of work to do and that work isn't found in the monthly meeting that no one attends. There is a "policy" side of HOA board governance and a "politics" side of the equation.....both are important.

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