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BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
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We have a relatively new owner (I think he has been here about 1 yr) who was seen bringing multiple gallons of orange juice into his unit. By multiple, I mean anywhere between 10 and 20. Yes I know it is none of my business what food some one buys. He could bring in 100 gallons of juice and I won't be concerned if it weren't for his visitors.

I am more concerned with the man's visitors. Many different visitors(mostly men) at all hours of the day and night. I am wondering if something illegal is going on in his unit.
There has been no strange smell coming form his unit.
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
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M ~ Y ~ O ~ B

If a law is broken, call police.

If a covenant is broken, fine and/or call attorney.

What he drinks/eats and who he sees are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

I really suggest you get a life.

I, personally, don't know how to get one.

I am actually sufficiently bored to read and respond to this drivle.

BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
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If we knew for certain a law was broken, we would call police. I didn't notice the orange juice, it was reported to me along with a few other strange things this gentleman did. (I do have a life) I haven't gotten bored for years too much to do. I am sorry you are so bored.

If a covenant was being broken we would fine.

We have suspicions of other illegal activity of either this man or his friends, but no proof and we will not confront or call the police unless we have more than suspicion.
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
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I don't see the big deal. Just something strange oing on and to have fun discussing and theorizing with your friends.

I bet all those people are coming to enjoy his juice.
DaveD3 (Michigan)
Posts: 796
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How long do the "visitors" stay? a couple minutes, or a couple of hours?

SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
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Mind your own business.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
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Posted By SteveM9 on 10/25/2013 7:03 AM
Mind your own business.

I don't know how long they stay. I see some of the activity of people coming and some going. Most have been reported to me.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
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Posted By SteveM9 on 10/25/2013 7:03 AM
Mind your own business.

As a Board Member, I feel what happens in our building is my business especially if there is supicion of illegal activity. In the past year we have had thefts of multiple items. Recently garage door openers have been stolen from unlocked cars. We are advising people to lock their cars even in the garage. I did not want to go in to this much detail, but I think catching a thief should be the concern of every resident.

Other illegal acitivity is only suspected, but we know for a fact that thefts have been occurring.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
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Posted By KevinK7 on 10/25/2013 6:58 AM
I don't see the big deal. Just something strange oing on and to have fun discussing and theorizing with your friends.

I bet all those people are coming to enjoy his juice.

That was one of my thoughts and I sincerely hope that is the case. Maybe I could ask to enjoy some of it.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By BonnieG1 on 10/25/2013 8:11 AM

Maybe I could ask to enjoy some of it.

If you're concerned, that is exactly what you should do.

Discussing the issue and theorizing with friends is what is commonly referred to as gossip.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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When I was a teenager, we had some "bootleggers" in the neighborhood. They would make up "popsicles" with vodka in them. They sold them to the kids. They sold the beer that was stolen to the adults... That's the only illegal activity I can think of with the orange juice.

It may sound rude to say "MYOB". However, not much you can do until illegal activity is seen. I had a guy who would walk in front of his windows butt nekkid. There was not a thing I could do about it, even though reported to me by several residents. He is inside his house and not in public. He did expose himself at the pool once that was reported to the police. However, the police did not which home he lived in nor did I at the time. Eventually, someone doing something "illegal" will expose it. That's when the line is crossed and then the POLICE steps in.

Former HOA President
DaveD3 (Michigan)
Posts: 796
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He could be making wine or something from the juice I suppose. New fad of bathing in the stuff maybe? or perhaps he just enjoys juice.

The all-hour coming & going is more of a concern. If people pop in at random times for a couple of minutes and leave, that's more of a sign of potential illegal dealings than someone enjoying juice.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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It is to noted that the price of orange juice is to rise up to $5 or more in the next few months. He could be doing the same thing when Twinkies sold out....

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ND (PA)
Posts: 792
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I've read that if you fill a bathtub with gallons of OJ and a few other household products, you can concoct a homemade version of "Methanvitamine C", otherwise known as "L-Ascorbic Acid" on the street. It's a powerful new drug that is all the rage with kids these days . . . one side effects is the prevention of chronic scurvy; however, high doses (thousands of milligrams) may result in diarrhea in healthy adults. Be careful!

GlenL (Ohio)
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Bonnie is your last name Kravitz? When seeing suspicious things do you have the uncontrollable urge to call out "Abner"? If so you might be Bewitched.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
ValerieS2 (Michigan)
Posts: 244
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"As a Board Member, I feel what happens in our building is my business"

No, it is not. He may donate the juice to church functions. He may bathe in it. He may have found Jesus in it.

Leave him alone.
LoriL1 (Florida)
Posts: 78
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I don't know about the orange juice obsession, but whenever there are numerous visitors, coming and going, that may be of concern.

We had 3 young adults living in one of our condos and there was a constant stream of traffic, both day & night. They would pull up in the driveway or park in front of the unit for 5 to 10 minutes and then they were gone.

Neighbors were concerned that there may be drug dealing going on, so we reported it to the police. Within one month, at 6am one morning, unmarked vehicles lined our streets and a drug bust ensued and they were hauled off.

They no longer live on the property...problem solved!

BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
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Posted By ValerieS2 on 10/25/2013 1:05 PM
"As a Board Member, I feel what happens in our building is my business"

No, it is not. He may donate the juice to church functions. He may bathe in it. He may have found Jesus in it.

Leave him alone.

I am not as concerned about the juice as I am about different people coming and going all hours of the day an night and the thefts that have taken place since this gentleman has moved into our building.
The advice given earlier is if illegal activity is going on eventually it will show itself. In my opinion that was the best reponse I have received.
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
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We had some similar comings and goings and strange occurrences. What was the cause? A prostitution house, a grow house, and someone caught up in a pyramid scheme with all his down line sellers coming to pick up their products (like OJ).

As long as they kept off my lawn and didn't cause much noise at night I was fine.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
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Maybe the OJ is because he is on a liquid only diet because they removed part of his stomach after he drank bleach trying to commit suicide. Maybe the people visiting are making sure he hasn't killed himself again.

If you really want to be a nosy neighbor, knock on his door and ask him.
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
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I lived where there was a neighbor with lots of comings & goings and sure enough he was dealing. One clue was the really, really short visits. But, neither he nor his visitors didn't bother the rest of the neighbors. Eventually a sting operation brought him down.

It's possible, Bonnie, that the large number of visitors & the large quantities of OJ are unrelated.

I'd also look really closely at the increase in thefts. Did they really increase once this man moved in and once traffic to his unit increased? It's possible that the increase in thefts have nothing to do with him and that there's a lot of speculation, which as someone else pointed out is commonly known as gossip.
ByronP (Minnesota)
Posts: 4
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The orange juice is for vitamin c as in "Livin on reds, vitamin c, and cocaine".

Now go MYOB.
FionaC1 (Washington)
Posts: 93
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If you just asked maybe it would clear things up.
But as long as his actions are not hurting the HOA, there is no reason to bother him. You could be labeled has harassing.
LauraR5 (Tennessee)
Posts: 220
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If you suspect illegal activity, call the police. But they are going to want specifics as to why you are calling them, so if it's a huge issue, I suggest you kick the surveillance up a notch to be sure.

We had a neighbor email our property manager to alert us to our neighbors' odd comings and goings. After we stopped laughing at the forwarded email, our reply was: Go knock on the door and introduce yourself.

Yes, if someone's making meth that could affect you because it could blow your house up too (assuming they are attached). However, I don't think orange juice is an ingredient in meth.

Maybe he just really likes OJ.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
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Posted By LauraR5 on 10/28/2013 8:49 AM
If you suspect illegal activity, call the police. But they are going to want specifics as to why you are calling them, so if it's a huge issue, I suggest you kick the surveillance up a notch to be sure.

We had a neighbor email our property manager to alert us to our neighbors' odd comings and goings. After we stopped laughing at the forwarded email, our reply was: Go knock on the door and introduce yourself.

Yes, if someone's making meth that could affect you because it could blow your house up too (assuming they are attached). However, I don't think orange juice is an ingredient in meth.

Maybe he just really likes OJ.

Yes,if someone is making meth in our building it could blow our building up. But I really don't think anyone is making meth in our building. Also we already know our neighbors. I would like to think that he just really likes orange juice or maybe it is for medical reasons. He did tell me on time of a potential life threatening problem he has had.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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I find it interesting that people are more willing to gossip about an issue rather than simply knock on a door and talk with the individuals involved in the issue. This will likely stop the gossip and you may make a friend.

BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
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Posted By TimB4 on 10/28/2013 2:40 PM
I find it interesting that people are more willing to gossip about an issue rather than simply knock on a door and talk with the individuals involved in the issue. This will likely stop the gossip and you may make a friend.


I have talked to this gentleman before. Most of the time the conversation has been friendly. That was until one day when I was waiting for the elevator to go down to the laundry room and some of this gentleman's friends came into the building. I simply said since you are going up to see_______________, I will will let you go first and I will wait for the elevator. or something like that. I don't remember my exact words, but I was not questioning them because I knew where they were going.

Shortly after that this gentleman called and bowled me out for quesitioning his friends. I explained that I do question if people are in our secure building that I don't recognize. He made a nasty comment about having his friends check in with me.

Thus I am not to eager to talk much to this gentlemen as I don't know what is going to tick him off. Another person has had a similiar problem with him.

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