BradD2 (Florida)
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I am the President of a 50 unit HOA that was elected in February and we became self managed in March. We are going to be ratifying many Rules & Regulations in the next few months but the ones I am primarily concerned about right now deal with covenant violations. I have read FS 720 and come to somewhat different conclusions than what has been posted by other members of this forum from Florida.
The Florida Statute in question (FS 720.305.2) says:
“If the governing documents so provide, an association may suspend, for a reasonable period of time, the rights of a member or a member's tenants, guests, or invitees, or both, to use common areas and facilities and may levy reasonable fines, not to exceed $100 per violation, against any member or any tenant, guest, or invitee. A fine may be levied on the basis of each day of a continuing violation, with a single notice and opportunity for hearing, except that no such fine shall exceed $1,000 in the aggregate unless otherwise provided in the governing documents. A fine shall not become a lien against a parcel. In any action to recover a fine, the prevailing party is entitled to collect its reasonable attorney's fees and costs from the nonprevailing party as determined by the court.
(a) A fine or suspension may not be imposed without notice of at least 14 days to the person sought to be fined or suspended and an opportunity for a hearing before a committee of at least three members appointed by the board who are not officers, directors, or employees of the association, or the spouse, parent, child, brother, or sister of an officer, director, or employee. If the committee, by majority vote, does not approve a proposed fine or suspension, it may not be imposed.
(b) The requirements of this subsection do not apply to the imposition of suspensions or fines upon any member because of the failure of the member to pay assessments or other charges when due if such action is authorized by the governing documents.
(c) Suspension of common-area-use rights shall not impair the right of an owner or tenant of a parcel to have vehicular and pedestrian ingress to and egress from the parcel, including, but not limited to, the right to park.”
Our Covenants and By-Laws say that we can hand out by day fines and so the limit is $1,000 total. Why do I see that people suggesting $100 a day when it clearly says $100 per incident is the maximum unless it is a by day charge? If you are saying $100 a day for a by-day fine, then what is the incentive after 10 days? We are planning on it being $10 a day * the number of the offense or something like that. Does anyone have thoughts as to the amount?
I know that they have to have an appeal before a group of at least three homeowners who are not on the board or related to the board and I know we have to give 14 days, but it is still unclear to me.
o It says “an opportunity” does that mean that when you send out the violation notice you say that they have 14 days to submit in writing a request for an appeal? Seems that is an offer rather than the mandatory setting of a Hearing at a place and time, especially since you might need to involve homeowners who are not prone to volunteering (only 50 houses remember).
o It says a 14 day notice before the fine, so do you give a deadline in the violation notice and say that after it the fine of $xxx per day will begin to accumulate?
o How does the 14 day notice apply to repeat offenses? Is it 14 days each time, if so then certain offenses would appear non-enforceable?
The Florida Statute in question (FS 720.305.2) says:
“If the governing documents so provide, an association may suspend, for a reasonable period of time, the rights of a member or a member's tenants, guests, or invitees, or both, to use common areas and facilities and may levy reasonable fines, not to exceed $100 per violation, against any member or any tenant, guest, or invitee. A fine may be levied on the basis of each day of a continuing violation, with a single notice and opportunity for hearing, except that no such fine shall exceed $1,000 in the aggregate unless otherwise provided in the governing documents. A fine shall not become a lien against a parcel. In any action to recover a fine, the prevailing party is entitled to collect its reasonable attorney's fees and costs from the nonprevailing party as determined by the court.
(a) A fine or suspension may not be imposed without notice of at least 14 days to the person sought to be fined or suspended and an opportunity for a hearing before a committee of at least three members appointed by the board who are not officers, directors, or employees of the association, or the spouse, parent, child, brother, or sister of an officer, director, or employee. If the committee, by majority vote, does not approve a proposed fine or suspension, it may not be imposed.
(b) The requirements of this subsection do not apply to the imposition of suspensions or fines upon any member because of the failure of the member to pay assessments or other charges when due if such action is authorized by the governing documents.
(c) Suspension of common-area-use rights shall not impair the right of an owner or tenant of a parcel to have vehicular and pedestrian ingress to and egress from the parcel, including, but not limited to, the right to park.”
Our Covenants and By-Laws say that we can hand out by day fines and so the limit is $1,000 total. Why do I see that people suggesting $100 a day when it clearly says $100 per incident is the maximum unless it is a by day charge? If you are saying $100 a day for a by-day fine, then what is the incentive after 10 days? We are planning on it being $10 a day * the number of the offense or something like that. Does anyone have thoughts as to the amount?
I know that they have to have an appeal before a group of at least three homeowners who are not on the board or related to the board and I know we have to give 14 days, but it is still unclear to me.
o It says “an opportunity” does that mean that when you send out the violation notice you say that they have 14 days to submit in writing a request for an appeal? Seems that is an offer rather than the mandatory setting of a Hearing at a place and time, especially since you might need to involve homeowners who are not prone to volunteering (only 50 houses remember).
o It says a 14 day notice before the fine, so do you give a deadline in the violation notice and say that after it the fine of $xxx per day will begin to accumulate?
o How does the 14 day notice apply to repeat offenses? Is it 14 days each time, if so then certain offenses would appear non-enforceable?