Owner Posting Notes

One owner, in the past, was in rage a year ago and posted a note all over the complex to have a meeting on a subject. The accusations on the note were false(absolute lies) and serious but the HOA did nothing due to her and her rage.

Now that person is at it again and is wanting the HOA to take action on something that affects many HOAS in our area. This raging person wants OUR HOA to take action on something and for our HOA to pay for it all even though it affects 20 or so other HOAs. This person goes into rages from time to time and I will not dwell on that. I believe that at our next HOA meeting, she will be there and may even bring in many renters as support her raging.

In view that renters are not invited to HOA meetings, what can the HOA do if she brings in 10 or 20 renters? Secondly, she is the type of person that goes into severe rages of yelling and screaming... can the HOA meeting be closed(adjourned) for either of the above situations?

Virginia:

Keep in mind that the demands of renters are different than that of the owners...renters want everything and anything that will satisfy them regardless of the cost because they are not the ones paying for it.....so their attending the meetings could be costly

Oh, one thing we have done when there are a lot of complaints about an issue which the Board simply doesn't have time to address is ask for volunteers to form a committee to investigate the issue and submit options for the Board to consider.

Example:

Every general membership meeting had complaints of erosion. The Board simply didn't have time to investigate the options. Therefore, we sent a letter to every homeowner and published the issue in our newsletter explaining that the Board simply didn't have the time to fully address the issue and asked for volunteers to form an erosion committee. We had zero volunteers.

At the following membership meeting, one member again brought up the issue of erosion. Our President at the time simply reminded him, and the rest of the membership, of the request for volunteers to investigate the issue and the fact that nobody stepped forward. He then asked that individual if he was volunteering to serve on that committee. The individual declined to serve and sat down.

Yes, the issue still exists. However, if the members aren't willing to step up and assist the Board in identifying the extent of the erosion, doing the research and meeting with contractors and county specialists to provide some options, then the problem apparently is something that the members can live with. At the very least, the complaining about the issue stopped.

So my advice, call her on it and ask if she is willing to head a committee to identify the scope of the issue and provide options on how the Board might address it.

We must keep in mind that renters issues are different... If they go to meetings, their demands will (WILL) be high... they would demand all sorts of things that would raise the dues but perhaps not the rent but the owners would end up footing the bill. I have heard some of the renter's demands and they are way out of line.

Alex I am sorry there seems to be some misunderstanding on the part of those renting they have some say in what the HOA does. IMO they have ZERO to say. Their contract is with the unit owner they rent from NOT the HOA.

WE do not allow renters at meetings. We do not solicite, or consider the opinions or in your case the demands of those who rent. In fact our MC will not respond to or engage with renters only OWNERS.

Now on to your original question if this were me I would simply call the police and inform them this is a private meeting and if XY&Z show up they should be asked to leave. Some folks think there is power in numbers but IMO no matter who or how many if they do not hold ownership they have no role or reason to be at meetings.

For me the same goes for the PIA you describe. She has the right to speak, she has the right to voice her opinion but she does not have the right to disrupt the meeting. If she cannot control herself or her meds have worn off ask the police to have her removed.

To have non-members who have no financial interest in the property now be given a voice as to what they want when they pay nothing is a serious slippery slope that does not serve the HOA.

Just to clarify... the renters are NOT demanding to go to the HOA meetings... it is JUST ONE OWNER who is wanting to stir up problems as she wants a certain thing done/taken up by the HOA even though the Wildlife/game office of this State says NO...... so she is planning to get many renters to comse to the meeting to protest along with her... HER SUPPORT on this issue.