Situation getting wore....

Some of you might remember my thread about trespassers in the pool. Well since then things aren't getting any better. More "friends" of the grandsons are coming in, one of them a white car with two guys and a girl. At one point last night I was taking out the trash, and as I was walking away, they sped up really fast, and shouted something at me, and drove off. I'm just grateful they just shouted and nothing else. I'm really discouraged. The board announced in the newsletter they're having a meeting about security. I'm waiting for it to be posted on the bulletin. They claim they want everyone's opinion on how to make the community safer and that's all well and good, but are they actually going to listen? Most of them probably will EXCEPT the President.

So my question is, what do you think I should say at the board meeting? What is most important? I wanna get the two grandsons out of here.

1) Grandson #1 was arrested for selling drugs

2) Grandson #2 was arrested for burglary with carried weapon and aggravated assault.

3) more than one resident have caught them multiple times using the pool after hours.

4) They have been cited by the board for setting off fireworks on common property and a crack pipe was found behind their condo

5) Grandson #2 moved in without being screened and the board knew. But now that we have SOME different board members can they request he be screened?

What do you think? I really need advice. Can they evict the grandsons? Or at least request they be screened?

What is the point of screening unit owners if they can move any criminal or felon into their unit? Isn't that why we had to pay to have a background check? It's really ticking me off to put it politely, that I had to pay 150 bucks for them to run a background on me so I can move into my grandmas condo. And this felon moved with no questions asked. Not to mention at the time the people who were on the board had known me my entire life, since I was a baby, but I didn't get a free pass. And that's a good thing.

I should have mentioned that they live WITH THE GRANDFATHER. He's the one that let them move in with him , therefore, they're not considered renters. Our HOA is going to install surveillance cameras in the community, including the pool. They're also going to install a new pool gate at the cost of 12 grand, *rolls eyes*

And even if it were up to the renter to force a background check, how come the HOA forced one on me? They had me listed as a tenant, therefore they had no right to submit me to a background check. I never complained though because I'm just one of those people who believe the rules should be followed....for everyone.

And if I'm correct, Florida law doesn't protect felons, which means the HOA has every right to kick them out.

It's very upsetting. I used to deal with this stuff in my old neighborhood all the time but the difference was that I had my own backyard and I didn't pay HOA fees. So please tell me what's the difference of living in a gated community and paying over hundred bucks in dues, if there's no difference in security than an open neighborhood? None

Jonathan, do your documents require all renters to be screened? What do your docs say about what constitutes a resident versus guest?

So simply because your grandmother lives somewhere else, and you moved in, you had to get the background check but because that grandfather lives in the unit they did not have to get the background check? Both grandparent/grandchild situations??? What exactly do your docs say about WHO must undergo a background check and under what circumstances?

Matters NOT whether she resides there or not.

You would be a non-owner resident = tenant.

(proving in a court of law that you are actually paying rent would be problamatic at best ~ no decision has ever been reached re: sharing expenses in an informal way)

eg. owner 'Gary' moves in his (non-owner) girlfriend 'Mary'. They decide to split/share expenses ~ how would you ever PROVE in acourt of law a rental arrangement? Gary = owner resident, Mary = tenant (resident by definition)

what if: ".....i,m letting my third cousin 'vinnie' use my place while i'm away in europe" ~ he needs a place to stay, i need someone to watch the place while i'm gone ~ ? rental ? - ? family ?

matters not what 'they' consider, only matters what a judge determines the CONTRACT (CCRs) says

imo: if it ain't expressly forbidden -> it is allowed (if legal)

And to comment about living in a gated community and paying dues- you are correct. Unfortunately, no matter where you live you can't choose your neighbors. A special and select few of the homeowners in my illustrious neighborhood are cokeheads, alcoholics, liars, con artists, etc. Ultimately, HOAs do not have a great deal of control over who lives in a house or buys a property. All we can do is to let these fine people "shine" and reveal themselves. Karma catches up with people eventually.