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KellyT (Ga)
Posts: 25
Posted:
In 2009, amendments were drafted and voted on in our HOA. The initial board at the time made an honest mistake, and assumed the amendments had passed. They filed them with the register of deeds. Then months later a board member was doing research and found out they were short 5 votes. Long story short this caused a lot of turmoil and division within the neighborhood. The next board knowing the amendments were not valid just decided to do nothing and I mean nothing because of all of this. I believe quite childish but, we didn't live in the subdivision at the time. Anyway, it's 2013, no one manages nor enforces any type of restrictions, not even the original. So, what to do? There will be an election or appointment soon and I'm doing my homework. I'd like to get the HOA to start over. There are many members who want this as well. Tired of a dormant HOA, wondering what there dues are being spent on. That being said, my first few questions on this forum, how do you rescind amendments? What document would you file in the register of deeds for this project? Has anyone ever rescinded amendments? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Kelly
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
Posted:
ask your register of deeds
MatthewW4 (Arizona)
Posts: 500
Posted:
Kelly,

First read your declaration about how it may be amended. Many require that a certain percentage of owners indicate their approval of an amendment by signing a document that is then recorded. Some seem to authorize amendments by voting. What you need to verify is that voting is even a valid means of amendment and, if so, what must be recorded. That is, must the names of those who voted in favor be recorded or just a certificate from the secretary that enough members voted in favor of the amendment.

As to the more immediate problem of correcting the mistaken recording, you cannot remove recorded documents but you can record a corrective document. Best would be to pass a board resolution signed by all directors and the corporate secretary stating that the amendment recorded on page 123 in book 456 was recorded in error as there were insufficient votes and record that document with the county recorder.

KellyT (Ga)
Posts: 25
Posted:
You can not remove what is recorded and they do not give advice as to what forms you would need. That would be a be however the first place to start when searching for all our HOA documents. Thank you.
KellyT (Ga)
Posts: 25
Posted:
MatthewW4, Thank you for the recommendation. All of our documents are easy to interpret. It seems most HOA's hire an attorney to do all necessary paperwork. Do you feel this would be necessary? -Kelly
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
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Posted By KellyT on 08/05/2013 8:13 AM
In 2009, amendments were drafted and voted on in our HOA. The initial board at the time made an honest mistake, and assumed the amendments had passed. They filed them with the register of deeds. Then months later a board member was doing research and found out they were short 5 votes. Long story short this caused a lot of turmoil and division within the neighborhood. The next board knowing the amendments were not valid just decided to do nothing and I mean nothing because of all of this. I believe quite childish but, we didn't live in the subdivision at the time. Anyway, it's 2013, no one manages nor enforces any type of restrictions, not even the original. So, what to do? There will be an election or appointment soon and I'm doing my homework. I'd like to get the HOA to start over. There are many members who want this as well. Tired of a dormant HOA, wondering what there dues are being spent on. That being said, my first few questions on this forum, how do you rescind amendments? What document would you file in the register of deeds for this project? Has anyone ever rescinded amendments? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Kelly

Kelly

My advice would be leave the amendments issue alone and work on establishing an active HOA with an elected BOD, reports, meetings, etc. Once in place, then revisit the amendment issue.

Also if all agree with the amendments then it should be a no brainer to get them re-ratified (as in voted on).

Where in SC? I am in Lexington SC.
KellyT (Ga)
Posts: 25
Posted:
We're in Summerville, Dorchester County, SC. I would love to have a functioning board. Got to believe in HOPE.
AllisonD (Florida)
Posts: 449
Posted:
You can file an Amended version of your amendment, stating that the entire original Amendment filed with the registrar on such-a-such date is hereby rescinded.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Kelly

Is your association owner controlled?

Is there a present BOD?

Basically there are two ways to change a BOD. The easiest is method get like minded people to run for and get elected to the BOD. It might take two election cycle to bring about a complete shift.

The other way is to recall some or all of the BOD and replace them with chosen people. This can get very sticky and very legal very fast. Not the best method.

Back to electing like minded people. You have got to read, reread, reread, your Bylaws as they will explain how people get elected to the BOD. Become familiar with the Quorum (people voting) needed to hold an election. Also how to adjourn and reconvene the meeting if a Quorum is not reached. In many cases the Quorum required gets cut in half when the meeting is reconvened. Typically 2/3rds of the owners are needed for an election meeting (in person or via proxy) to establish a Quorum. So let us say 133 out of 200. The reconvened meeting will need 67. The next time you will need 39 people. Several times my HOA in Mount Pleasant had to reconvene the Annual/Election Meeting twice (total of 3 meetings) to have a Quorum and get new people elected. Only once in 12 years did we have a Quorum at the first Annual Meeting.

Hope this helps.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By KellyT on 08/05/2013 8:13 AM

how do you rescind amendments?

If they were properly adopted, you would take another vote to rescind/repeal them.

If they were not properly adopted and improperly registered as being adopted a simple statement registered with the county should be sufficient. I would think something along the lines of:

Due to an administrative error, the following amendments that were recorded as being adopted are hereby rescinded: [list] Signed and notarized by all members of the Board.

Once recorded, a copy should be provided to each member.

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Posted By KellyT on 08/05/2013 8:13 AM

What document would you file in the register of deeds for this project?

As Glen pointed out, check with the clerk. Better yet, draft up the statement and pay your attorney to put into proper legalize to have recorded.

Hope this helps,

Tim
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Correction. As John pointed out (not Glen).
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Kelly,
Check with an HOA attorney. Perhaps if the amendment was not challenged within 1 year after being filed it may be valid and too late to challenge. Otherwise, simply write a new amendment; get it passed; and file it.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
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They filed them with the register of deeds.


Fix this problem the same way that was used to create the issue. Re-file the old covenants with todays date. The old, incorrect, covenants cannot be deleted. You can only file new ones.
DaveD3 (Michigan)
Posts: 796
Posted:
I think Tim is on the right track.
If they were officially adpoted, a vote would be required to rescind them, and a document would be presented to the clerk to officially register such.
If they were registered by mistake, a legalese document saying "nevermind" would be filed to rescind those amendments.
In either case, I would defer the actual documents to the HOA attorney to make sure it's done properly.

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