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JoseV (Florida)
Posts: 27
Posted:
Several months ago I posted, on my property, a sign that reads: "Curb your Dog." The reason for that is obvious, inconsiderate home owners are not picking up after their dogs. I reported this problem to the HOA and management company several years ago and recommended that signs similar to mine be put up. Unfortunately, nothing has taken place. So, as a proactive individual, I took it upon myself to post one. Since then, I have received 3 notices. Just today I received a certified letter "a final notice before fine." And although, I have spoken to the management by phone and sent e-mails to the HOA (I never get a reply from them)I have received to positive reply. I suggested that the bi-law be amended to list other signs that are being currently permitted, but not listed on our bi-laws. This is what our by-laws read, Article III, General Restriction-Use and Occupancy, Section 17 Signs States, "No signs of any character shall be displayed or placed upon any lot or living unit except "for rent or "for sale" signs." Here's the thing, Alarm company signs are posted in just about 50% of the homes, Pesticide signs are posted when lawns are sprayed, Irrigation signs are posted every time the Home Depot or Lowes or another company perform a repair. Swimming pool installer put up there signs, roofers to as well. The HOA themselves put up signs notifying the community of upcoming events and meetings. Yet, I feel that I am being discriminate on. At this point I am frustrated with the lack of professionalism from both the HOA and management company and feel that my rights are being violated in giving preference to big companies. I am considering contacting an attorney. Any word of advise?

One more item, The management company is picking and choosing which bylaw to apply. For example, we have lost over 700 live oat trees since the establishment of our community 12 years ago. And they sit idle and do nothing about it. Yet the bi-laws are very clear. It states that every home must have 4 had wood trees. If you destroy a tree it must be replace. This by-law has never been enforce. Some home now have zero trees.
CarolF (Florida)
Posts: 435
Posted:
Jose - you may want to check your local county animal control laws. You should be able to report owners who do not pick up after their dogs to Animal Control, who have the authority to issue a fine for such violations. This is the case in my county in Florida and this is the advice given by my HOA.
PeterD3 (Florida)
Posts: 708
Posted:
Alarm/security signs are protected by Florida state stautes, 720.304(6).
(within 10 feet of any entrance to the home)

What you got here is a pissing contest.
Hope you've had a lot to drink!
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Jose instead of trying to get into a fight over the sign, why not gather signatures to hold a Special Meeting to amend the by-laws? If enough of your fellow homeowners agree with you it should be a no brainer and pass easily.

Or you could look on-line for humane dog repellants and start sprinkling them around the border of your yard to keep them out.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
There are deterrents you may place on the lawn that work very well.
Check you local plant nursery.

This will likely be more effective than signs and avoid the issue with the HOA.
AllisonD (Florida)
Posts: 449
Posted:
The pesticide sign is put up as a warning for those walking pets. The other signs are temporary signs to alert folks that work is being done. I would guess that the sign rule is there so the landscapers do not have to work around your sign. Can you put a sign on your mailbox instead of having it stick out of the ground? Or perhaps attach it to a tree (a small tasteful sign)?
MikeR15 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 389
Posted:
The HOA attorney would just LOVE for you to leave the signs up.

This way he can add his "collection" fees to the assinine fines.

Selective enforcement is a way of life in these places, the documents really are not worth the paper they are written on.

In my HOA a board member erected a 10' tall satalite dish...on his FRONT YARD.

Our CCRs say NO DISHES OF ANY TYPE allowed. These things are a joke and only the lawyers are laughing.

Just remove the signs or be ready to funnel your savings and equity in your home to the bottom feeding HOA attorney.

That is why fines even exist at all.

(The dog poop, now that has some possiblities!)
JohnB26 (South Carolina)
Posts: 1,569
Posted:
in SC my county ENCOURAGES the termination of tresspassing dogs

yep .... the law(s) hold over from a share-cropping agrarian life style where destroyed crops could lead to actual hunger

would you like a dog to pee on YOUR tomato or been crop?

the dog(s) is tresspassing ~ take any action you believe a reasonable person would take to protect their property from willful damage caused by others
KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
You have two options.

Write "for sale" or "for rent" on that sign and argue that it is not a "curb your dog sign" (and risk more action) or you could take it down and work to get the governing documents rewritten.

RayM6 (Virginia)
Posts: 40
Posted:
JoseV, I feel your pain, but in my community, I'd ask you to take down that sign, too. I live on a lot adjacent to a walking trail. The front of my yard has a sidewalk. For quite some time, I was constantly picking up after others' dogs. Drove me nuts. Our HOA sent out a few emails asking folks to pick up after their dogs. It helped a little. I ended up handling it on my own. I got up extra early a few mornings, sat by the front door, and waited. Sure enough,I saw some neighbors letting their dogs go on my yard and the trail. When it was obvious they weren't picking it up, I said "Good Morning! Can I offer you a bag?" That was enough to shame each person except one. The next time she did it, I asked her to pick up after her dog, and if she didn't, I'd call the county. I ended up calling the county, filing a complaint, and she got a ticket. Hasn't happened since, and I didn't make anyone (else) mad.

I shouldn't have had to do it, but it wasn't something the HOA could handle effectively. Maybe the same for you, too. Good luck

Ray
HOA President
VA

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