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SteveW9 (New Mexico)
Posts: 37
Posted:
If a HOA,anywhere, that has covenants that restrict renters, could you please provide me with a copy?
AllisonD (Florida)
Posts: 449
Posted:
By restrict do you mean totally deny any renting or do you mean that you want to have guidelines like rejecting someone who has a felony or the number of unrelated people allowed to rent one unit?
AllisonD (Florida)
Posts: 449
Posted:
By restrict do you mean totally deny any renting or do you mean that you want to have guidelines like rejecting someone who has a felony or the number of unrelated people allowed to rent one unit?
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
Or, do you mean establish a minimum number of days for rentals? Or that a new owner must occupy the residence for xx months before renting it out? Or that the owner is restricted for how many times the residence can be rented out in one year? Or????
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
The best one that I have seen was suggested on this site.

No property may be rented during the first x years of ownership.

This kept investors out but allowed members to rent if needed.

AllisonD (Florida)
Posts: 449
Posted:
In the original documents, our restrictions were that no house could be rented for less than 6 months at a time, only the entire house could be rented (probably meaning you cant rent your garage to someone for example), no renting of rooms and the business of renting houses was prohibited. The last rule, we took to mean that no one owner of multiple houses could rent more than 1 house. Later, we amended by adding a provision to have an application and approval process, which included a fee and criminal background check. The rule says misdemeanors are ok but not felonies.

We have had discussions about forbidding renting during the first or second year of ownership but the homeowners were very divided and a vote did not take place.
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
SteveW, whatever advice or tips you get, make sure you know your own state's laws about rental limitations. There's a lot of variation among states.

Als, what do you covenants (CC&Rs) say, if anything ,about the topic?
SteveW9 (New Mexico)
Posts: 37
Posted:
I would like to have guidelines.

I like the ideas about rejecting someone who has a felony; unrelated people allowed to rent one unit; establishing a minimum number of days for rentals; etc.

We are trying to revise our covenants. We thought that this task would be easier if we had your input.

Thank you.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Has no one read our 100's of discussions on this subject? The HOA does NOT own the property so they can not put rental restrictions in place. It is up to the owners of the property and the mortgage companies. The HOA is a THIRD party to the rental agreemements of it's members. If there are violations by the renter, the HOA can not enforce those onto the renter. They have to make the owner responsible.

What your HOA can do? Make sure to request that ALL rental agreements the owners make have in them the renters must follow the rules of the HOA or face eviction. This is NOT in the standard off the shelf agreement. This will not only protect the owner due to tenant's rights, but gives the HOA a bit more in regards to holding the feet to the ground of the owners.

Former HOA President
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Steve

There has been much discussion on limiting renters. The laws on doing so can vary widely from state to state. Many associations that tried it went about it wrong and illegally by using Rules and Regulations.

Just changing/adding covenants does not mean it would be legal either.

I suggest if an issue, then you ask for local legal advice.

From the get go, our covenants prohibit any rental within the first year after purchasing. We know we have several that bought and a family member alone (not the owner) moved in immediately. In two cases adult child and their spouse of the owner and in one case, the father of the owner. We do not count these as rentals. We also ignore the possible violation as they are no trouble and all dues are paid on time.
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
Actually, Melissa has made her argument 100s of times, but that doesn't make it correct.

As John46 stressed, rental limitations vary a lot by state. You're wasting your own time and the time of others if you do not know you state's laws. You need an attorney anyway to properly revise your covenants. Ask that person what your state laws permit & don't permit re: limiting rentals.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
As someone who has rental property in a HOA, there is not much my HOA can do to restrict that. Make a restriction? okay but how do you enforce it? That fine may be a tax deduction for me. there are tenant laws that the owner has to obey and the HOA does too. Proper notification to evict is 2 10 day notices and then a 2 week for the police to evict if needed. Is the HOA going to put that detail in their enforcement notices to evict?

The best option is for the owners to have the caveat that the renter follow the HOA rules or be evicted. Otherwise it is just a legal battle for much of nothing in the ned.

Former HOA President
AllisonD (Florida)
Posts: 449
Posted:
In Florida, we are allowed to put restrictions on rentals. We have a meeting, follow all the proper meeting procedures, the residents vote yes, our attorney makes sure its worded properly and it becomes an amendment to our documents and filed with the county clerk. If someone does not follow the rules, after the proper number of calls and letters with deadlines certain, the homeowner will be fined. Our association also has the power to evict a renter under certain circumstances. We also have the power to collect the rent to pay off dues, if the homeowner is not current on dues. We are allowed to do all of this in Florida AND its been voted on by the majority of our homeowners. We want this. If someone does not want to follow the rules, I suggest that person should purchase a house elsewhere. The fines are not tax deductible. Dues are not tax deductible. An eviction takes 3 days in Florida. Additionally as part of the rental application, we require the renters to sign a third-party lease stating that they will abide by the association's rules. Also, the homeowner must pay a $500 refundable security deposit, in case their tenants do damage to common property or fail to maintain the house. Our homeowners who rent their homes abide by our rules and for the most part, we have not had any problems with renters.

RobertM25 (Florida)
Posts: 12
Posted:
As I read this Allison's Association has covered all the bases. Could you give us a contact so we could read the wording? This is becoming big concern due to the market and so many empty homes.
GenoS (Florida)
Posts: 4,276
Posted:
Robert, that discussion is almost 2 years old.
AnnH5 (Florida)
Posts: 304
Posted:
Our HOA has passed rules for rental units. All I can say is that they look nice on paper. The problem is that any HOA "restriction" is only as good if it is enforceable. If the HOA doesn't know about an "issue" then they can't exactly enforce it. And when it comes to rentals, it is difficult to do.

No renting to convicted felons? Great. What if the renter's convict brother comes to live with the family? It's not like the HOA is going to have a clue let alone the owner. To that end, you can have owners who are convicts or who are engaging in highly illegal activity. I know of at least one owner who is currently serving time and will come back when released. What if someone is convicted after their lease is signed? And further, how would the HOA deal with a lease which is between the owner and the renter? It's a legal contract between those 2 parties, not between the renter and the HOA.

Restricting the number of rentals? Allowable but the reality is that in this state, some owners can't sell and their only option is to rent out their home. Renting is also very common and to be honest, the majority of renters on my street have been very nice. Also bear in mind that there are going to be those who lost their homes during the economic downturn and are now renting, even though that was not their plan in life. There are also now an increasing number of people who got burned or scared after the economic downturn and they essentially do not want to carry the risk of home ownership. Renting is kind of a hot commodity in some parts of the US.

If you want to protect your community from investors (ie companies that buy massive quantities and then rent them), you might be able to place some stipulations. Our community does have a limit per individual or entity in place for that. I have also heard of communities not allowing homes to be rented for X amount of time from the time of purchase (homes have to be owner occupied for a year or more). I have also heard of communities not allowing sublets, boarding, or subdivision of a single family home for the purpose of renting.

Whatever you decide, make sure it will truly be in the best interests of the owners, is enforceable, and is reasonable.

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