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DanH7 (Maryland)
Posts: 14
Posted:
Our Secretary gave their resignation and then the President of the board said that he would give him a leave of absence and be a 'Friend of the board' and continue to do the duties of the Secretary, take meeting minutes and other duties the Sectary did. Can the President do this, it was not noted in the minutes that the board motioned this and voted on it but like it was just said and done. The Secretary must have had reasons to resign and has said that he does not have the time to do the job. From what I have read the President is there to manage meetings, sign documents and the usual duties of a President and cannot be the end all decision maker.

thanks
Dan
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Dan,

What you have read is correct. The issue should have been brought to the Board as a whole.
If the Secretary doesn't have time to do the job, perhaps you can volunteer to take on those duties.

Tim
DanH7 (Maryland)
Posts: 14
Posted:
Tim,

We have had members of the community volunteer to do this, but the BOD President has ignored their requests and tends to do his own bidding. We are going to bring this up at our BOD meeting tonight. Other community members feel the President is trying be autocratic; ignores other BOD members and his way is the only way.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
Posted:
Dan,

Clarification needed: Was the Secretary a member of the board? Did the secretary resign from the officer position of secretary, from the board, or both?

In our association officers such as treasurer and secretary need not be board members. Is it possible that the secretary resigned from the board but is willing to continue as secretary?

If that is the case, no board vote or consultation is necessary.
DanH7 (Maryland)
Posts: 14
Posted:
Tim

He resigned from the board and as secretary. The President made him a "Friend of the board" (from the minutes of BOD meeting) and he has volunteered to take the minutes at meetings; apparently he hasn't done a good job at that since minutes do not contain motions, vote tallies and results as per Maryland HOA laws. Plus the BOD is missing many months of minutes from the past three years. Quite a mess we have right now.

Dan
JM10 (California)
Posts: 503
Posted:
That's a major red flag. Is this because there is some stipulation that the president can't also be the secretary and so he's using the former/resigning secretary as a puppet or whatever you wish to call it?

I know in some CC&R, there may be some designation that the president can't hold two positions. You might check corporation codes as well. In California one person can be all three unless the CC&R/bylaws stipulate otherwise.

CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
Sounds to me like the president isn't "trying" to be autocratic; he IS autocratic.

Owners who aren't directors may serve on our Board too, but, per our bylaws, the prez & sec'y cannot be the same person because we need those officers' two signatures on checks.

I can't imagine that your bylaws say that the prez has the authority to appoint officers!! Nor your state's corporations code. I feel pretty certain that the board must elect officers.

Read your docs: Do they allow for a director's "leave of absence"? Do the mention someone called a "friend of the Board"?

Are you on the Board, Dan? Whether you are or aren't, it sounds like you need to combine with others to get rid of th president.

How many are on the Board? Are they all afraid of this president?
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
Sounds to me like the president isn't "trying" to be autocratic; he IS autocratic!

Owners who aren't directors may serve on our Board too, but, per our bylaws, the prez & sec'y cannot be the same person because we need those officers' two signatures on checks.

I can't imagine that your bylaws say that the prez has the authority to appoint officers!! Nor your state's corporations code. I feel pretty certain that the Board must elect officers.

Read your docs: Do they allow for a director's "leave of absence"? Do the mention someone called a "friend of the Board"? If not, the prez has no authority to fabricate them.

Are you on the Board, Dan? Whether you are or aren't, it sounds like you need to combine with others to get rid of the president.

How many are on the Board? Are they all afraid of this president? What size is your HOA? Do you have a property mgr. (PM)?
DanH7 (Maryland)
Posts: 14
Posted:
The only position that can hold a dual position is the Treasurer;they can be both the treasurer and Secretary.

Our docs do not contain any 'leave of absence' if you resign, you are gone, Maryland State Law supports this also. And definitely there isn't any mention of a "Friend of the Board"

I am not on the BOD but my wife was just elected in, we are trying to get the Associations BOD in compliance with our By-Laws and MD State Laws. We are going to our first BOD meeting tonight since the election. We are going to challenge the "Friend" position who will take the minutes (the minutes have not been in compliance with MD law for years) Minutes should reflect motions, vote tally's and results; from the minutes I have seen for the past five years this hasn't been done. The BOD has not followed election protocol for many years, they haven't formed a nomination committee which is in our by-laws, they haven't announced BOD meetings which is Maryland law so that the community can attend and speak, they only ones the community is aware of is the annual meeting. We have a mess here right now and some of us are trying to get the right info and get things straight. Our website is out of date and we are paying for it and email; I am trying to get them to go to the 21st century and use something that is free, they are wasting association's money but not even listening to me or others. I feel that they have done a dis-service to the community and should be removed from the board.

We have a BOD of four, should be five, they let the last position slip through the past year after the Sec resigned, that position should have been in the election this year. We have 177 homeowners.

This is a good ole boys backroom network, where they have had a president resign and before that fact added someone to the board as an officer at large and then they appointed them to take the president's position; same for the vice-president.

There is a lot more of facts that we have gathered than what I put here.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Quote:

He resigned from the board and as secretary.


He resigned. There is now an opening for a secretary and an opening for a board member. Fix it.

PS. You can't take a leave of absence from a position you no longer hold. Example: If I quit my job, I can't take a paid vacation. Get it?
DanH7 (Maryland)
Posts: 14
Posted:
That is how we feel and read it.
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
Sorry you didn't get to us sooner since you have a meeting tonight. You may not see many replies because of that. And I assume agenda items can't be added at this late time? Or can they? If so, put:

1. Solicit members to fill vacant director position. Place call in newsletter

2. Choose a secretary who'll comply with your bylaws and state laws concerning meeting minutes.

It may be too late today to do anything this, but see if you can round up others to attend to support your wife & you. See if you can publicize next month's meeting well in advance. You need help for what's ahead of you!
DanH7 (Maryland)
Posts: 14
Posted:
It is too late to add to the agenda.

1. TThe BOd has not really put out a newsletter, got one for June, and the one before tht was October.

BOD communication with the community is very lacking.

2. We have had volunteers but they have been ignored.

If it isn't the Presidents way the no way.

I feel that I have a good start here and am glad that I am getting responses; wish I had found this discussion board earlier. I hope to continue to receive information here, it seems to be really helpful. I'll post an update tomorrow on how the meeting goes tonight. and if there is request for more information I will post it.
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
Good luck to you & your wife tonight, Dan. Maybe she can insist that there's an actual vote on agenda items.

Yes, do give us an update, maybe start a new subject.

For next month, your wife can put items on the agenda. Since you have volunteers, place call for newsletter editor on the agenda for next month or some such.
DanH7 (Maryland)
Posts: 14
Posted:
Thanks for the support.

I think I might go ahead and speak at the BOD meeting and announce that the BOD is null and void. They have not followed the association by-laws or Maryland law for the elections. Our by-laws require a nominating committee, this was never done per the BOD decision. And if the BOD is null and void then all actions the BOD have taken are null and void. From the minutes I have seen they haven't documented all of these in the proper method per Maryland Homeowners Law, motion, votes and tallies. I had checked with the Maryland Homeowners Association and asked if anything passed by the BOD was legal; association fees increases, etc. since they do not have the documentation to back it up. The response I received was that it was 'illegal', to go to the Consumer Protection Board of the Attorney General and file a complaint and then I would probably have to sue.

This will be more than a warning shot over the bow but I am anxious to see how they react.
CarolR11 (Colorado)
Posts: 2,563
Posted:
I'm probably too late for tonight's meeting, Dan, but I think your approach will only piss off the other directors and also make your wife's job harder!

Don't get into "null & void," etc. Instead try to persuade the Board add homeowners present that there's room for improvement and maybe name a couple of ways to move forward?
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Dan

You wife was elected not you. I believe your attitude and actions will soon marginalize her.

I suggest you slow down a bit.

DanH7 (Maryland)
Posts: 14
Posted:
I held off as suggested here. We had some minor victories and are are still working to get things corrected. The 'Friend of the Board' was not allowed to take the minutes and I now have started a discussion on the validity of the election of officers: Election results questioned.

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