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DR (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I live in a small HOA in Lake Co Florida We have a president and board of directors that are running our association in violation of many state statues, as well as our own by-laws. The association is dysfunctional, as 30 percent are vacation homes, nonresident rental, or vacant lots. Some listen to the president or do not care.

Proxies are delivered to select members, in person or via e mail, and are not allowed to be reviewed by members. Our by-laws state that 2/3 majority to approve of changes. Thus the collection of proxies.
Financial records/reports are never complete. Meeting minutes of board and annual meeting are not complete or nonexistent.

Do Florida statues provide that meeting minutes be published and distributed after an annual meeting?

Roberts Rules of Order are never applied in meetings.

I have requested the minute’s book for the meeting minutes and financial reports for the last seven years be made available for viewing. (Per FL statues)

The president and several board of directors have refused to accept delivery of my request letters. Two have signed for them; however refuse to respond to my request. These were mailed to them with name stated, position on the board, and the association’s name. Via certified/return receipt mail,

How can these records be examined?

What remedies do we have to correct these problems?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
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Posted By DR on 06/12/2013 7:46 AM

Do Florida statues provide that meeting minutes be published and distributed after an annual meeting?

No. The Statutes specify that the Association must make them available for inspection by the members when the member/s request it. There is no requirement that they be published.

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Posted By DR on 06/12/2013 7:46 AM

Roberts Rules of Order are never applied in meetings.

Unless your governing documents or State Statutes require the use of Roberts Rules, Roberts Rules of Order do not need to be used.

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Posted By DR on 06/12/2013 7:46 AM

I have requested the minute’s book for the meeting minutes and financial reports for the last seven years be made available for viewing. (Per FL statues)

The president and several board of directors have refused to accept delivery of my request letters. Two have signed for them; however refuse to respond to my request. These were mailed to them with name stated, position on the board, and the association’s name. Via certified/return receipt mail,

How can these records be examined?

Send the request to the registered agent.
In that request, notate that past requests have not been honored.

You can find out who the registered agent is by contacting or doing a search on the website of the FL Division of Corporations

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Posted By DR on 06/12/2013 7:46 AM

What remedies do we have to correct these problems?

The best choice is to gather support, vote the bums out and replace them with those who will comply with the statutes. However, with an apathetic, mostly non-resident or part year resident membership, that can be difficult to impossible.

You might try filing a complaint with the Division of Florida Condominiums, Timeshares, and Mobile Homes. This may or may not have an impact.

If you can't vote the bums out, and filing a complaint doesn't work, you have the following options:

1) Try working with them (volunteer to assist where you can) and see if you can make changes from within.

2) Live with it.

3) Sell and move.

4) File legal action to obtain access to the records. Of course this won't make you any friends and, other than getting information, won't likely change anything else about the situation because the same people will still be sitting on the Board until others are willing to become involved and serve in their place (just being realistic).

TinaM1 (Florida)
Posts: 16
Posted:
Hi: I used to live in Florida, and I've seen The Florida Division of Condominiums do quite a bit of good and were very helpful. I've seen them take a property manager's license away and fine people, etc. They also should be able to tell you procedures for recalling a board, etc. I wish I had a state agency to call - I live in Georgia and there is absolutely nowhere to report anything. If someone does know where to report a property manager or board not following the law or by-laws, please let me know. The only answer I ever got was to hire a lawyer!
AnnH4 (Florida)
Posts: 53
Posted:
INSPECTION AND COPYING OF RECORDS.—The official records shall be maintained within the state and must be open to inspection and available for photocopying by members or their authorized agents at reasonable times and places within 10 business days after receipt of a written request for access. This subsection may be complied with by having a copy of the official records available for inspection or copying in the community. If the association has a photocopy machine available where the records are maintained, it must provide parcel owners with copies on request during the inspection if the entire request is limited to no more than 25 pages.
(a) The failure of an association to provide access to the records within 10 business days after receipt of a written request submitted by certified mail, return receipt requested, creates a rebuttable presumption that the association willfully failed to comply with this subsection.
(b) A member who is denied access to official records is entitled to the actual damages or minimum damages for the association’s willful failure to comply with this subsection. The minimum damages are to be $50 per calendar day up to 10 days, the calculation to begin on the 11th business day after receipt of the written request.
(c) The association may adopt reasonable written rules governing the frequency, time, location, notice, records to be inspected, and manner of inspections, but may not require a parcel owner to demonstrate any proper purpose for the inspection, state any reason for the inspection, or limit a parcel owner’s right to inspect records to less than one 8-hour business day per month.
AnnH4 (Florida)
Posts: 53
Posted:
I guess my question is this- is there a property manager? That would be the person to send the request to. If there is no property manager, you are following the procedures to obtain a records inspection, and the Association is not abiding by the above statute, you might be entitled to collect damages.
JM10 (California)
Posts: 503
Posted:
We had the same problem, but we're in California. We took the HOA board to small claims court. The HOA was required to pay our court fees and a penalty as well as turn over the documents.

Be sure to request that your judge write out all the specific documents. Our third time in court (in less than a year) our judge failed to specify and so when we attempted to file a contempt of court motion, the first one, the judge asked the HOA again to provide the documents and the second time we filed the motion, the judge came back and said that wasn't part of the original action.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Posted By DR on 06/12/2013 7:46 AM
I live in a small HOA in Lake Co Florida We have a president and board of directors that are running our association in violation of many state statues, as well as our own by-laws. The association is dysfunctional, as 30 percent are vacation homes, nonresident rental, or vacant lots. Some listen to the president or do not care.

Proxies are delivered to select members, in person or via e mail, and are not allowed to be reviewed by members. Our by-laws state that 2/3 majority to approve of changes. Thus the collection of proxies.
Financial records/reports are never complete. Meeting minutes of board and annual meeting are not complete or nonexistent.

Do Florida statues provide that meeting minutes be published and distributed after an annual meeting?

Roberts Rules of Order are never applied in meetings.

I have requested the minute’s book for the meeting minutes and financial reports for the last seven years be made available for viewing. (Per FL statues)

The president and several board of directors have refused to accept delivery of my request letters. Two have signed for them; however refuse to respond to my request. These were mailed to them with name stated, position on the board, and the association’s name. Via certified/return receipt mail,

How can these records be examined?

What remedies do we have to correct these problems?

Why the past 7 years? It does reek of a witch hunt to me.
DR (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
FLA statues require 7 years of records be kept. DR

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