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CharleneF (Pennsylvania)
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Our Homeowners Association has a rule that nominees who wish to serve on the board must meet the following qualifications: attend (4) out of (11) board meetings in the past 12 months and have (5) homeowners signatures backing their nomination. Is this a valid rule?
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 565
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Charlene,

You will need to check your governing documents. Our governing documents give the board authority to establish the election rules and procedures. In our HOA someone who wishes to run for the board is required to submit a petition signed by 25 owners in good standing.

Unless your state laws say otherwise or your governing documents specifically prohibit such requirements, your board is probably within their authority.

It seems like a good idea to me for board candidates to have demonstrated enough interest and initiative to attend most previous board meetings. This will tend to weed out single issue candidates (e.g. ones with a beef about one particular rule) or those without the time and energy to do the job of director adequately. It really comes down to whether your HOA can attract enough qualified candidates to fill the open board positions with such restrictions in place.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Charlene

I have never heard of such a rule. A BOD can make Rules and Regulations pretty well as much as they see fit to do. What they cannot do is make one(s) that override the Covenants/Bylaws.

I suggest you look up in your docs the qualifications for becoming a BOD Member. That will be the controlling document, not the R&R's.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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Charlene,

If your Association is incorporated as a nonprofit (most are, but you should check to be sure), the PA Nonprofit Corporation Law of 1988 would apply (scroll down to SUBPART C, chapters 51-59).

Per section § 5722 of that act, the Association may adopt qualifications for Directors. However, those qualifications must be contained within the Bylaws or the Bylaws must specify that the Board may adopt qualification. Here is the language from that law [emphasis added]:

§ 5722. Qualifications of directors.

(a) General rule.--Each director shall be a natural person of full age, except as provided in subsection (b), who, unless otherwise restricted in the bylaws, need not be a resident of this Commonwealth or a member of the corporation. Except as otherwise provided in this section, the qualifications of directors may be prescribed in the bylaws.

Therefore, to determine if the rule you cite is valid, you will need to read the Bylaws of your Association.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By DavidW5 on 06/10/2013 7:05 AM

In our HOA someone who wishes to run for the board is required to submit a petition signed by 25 owners in good standing.

David, does that apply to all candidates (including sitting Board members running for reelection)?
SheliaH (Indiana)
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Posted By CharleneF on 06/10/2013 6:24 AM
Our Homeowners Association has a rule that nominees who wish to serve on the board must meet the following qualifications: attend (4) out of (11) board meetings in the past 12 months and have (5) homeowners signatures backing their nomination. Is this a valid rule?

What do your Bylaws and/or CCRs say? That's always the first place you should look for answers. If it's not in there, the rule might be valid if the Bylaws/CCRs allow the Board to adopt additional rules, provided they don't contradict what's in the governing documents.

Personally, I think the five homeowner support is unnecessary - at a minimum, I think a homeowner who (1) has his/her assessments paid up and (2) isn't involved in any litigation involving the Association should be eligible to run for a spot.

As for the attendance, does the interested party have to attend at least four meetings before becoming eligible to serve? If so, I can see the rationale behind that - you get to see how the board operates and hear details behind various decisions, but it's also a tad unreasonable. After all, one should be able to read board meeting minutes to get an idea of the Association's current issues and it may be someone hadn't been able to attend because of other commitments, but now has the time to devote to Board work.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
SheliaH (Indiana)
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Posted By CharleneF on 06/10/2013 6:24 AM
Our Homeowners Association has a rule that nominees who wish to serve on the board must meet the following qualifications: attend (4) out of (11) board meetings in the past 12 months and have (5) homeowners signatures backing their nomination. Is this a valid rule?

What do your Bylaws and/or CCRs say? That's always the first place you should look for answers. If it's not in there, the rule might be valid if the Bylaws/CCRs allow the Board to adopt additional rules, provided they don't contradict what's in the governing documents.

Personally, I think the five homeowner support is unnecessary - at a minimum, I think a homeowner who (1) has his/her assessments paid up and (2) isn't involved in any litigation involving the Association should be eligible to run for a spot.

As for the attendance, does the interested party have to attend at least four meetings before becoming eligible to serve? If so, I can see the rationale behind that - you get to see how the board operates and hear details behind various decisions, but it's also a tad unreasonable. After all, one should be able to read board meeting minutes to get an idea of the Association's current issues and it may be someone hadn't been able to attend because of other commitments, but now has the time to devote to Board work.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
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Posted By CharleneF on 06/10/2013 6:24 AM
Our Homeowners Association has a rule that nominees who wish to serve on the board must meet the following qualifications: attend (4) out of (11) board meetings in the past 12 months and have (5) homeowners signatures backing their nomination. Is this a valid rule?

The qualifications for becoming a director should be stated in your governing documents; the Declaration or CCRs, or, possibly the bylaws. The nominating and election process should be stated in the bylaws.

In our HOA, our Declaration forbids the Board from establishing the requirements to be a director. In other words, our Board cannot make any rules regarding the qualifications of a director.

Since, normally, Directors are elected by the homeowners, my guess would be that it would be improper for the board to make any rules regarding the qualifications of a director. But, you should check your own governing documents and your state laws covering corporations.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
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By the way, as an added note, according to standard parliamentary procedure, a nomination doesn't even require a second, let alone the support of a specified number of members. The election process itself takes care of that, so such a rule doesn't even make sense. If you don't have enough votes to get elected, you don't get elected. If you have enough votes to get elected, you certainly would have enough support to get nominated. Such a rule is unnecessary and silly.
MicheleB4 (Texas)
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New statutes for the State of Texas specifically state that the association CANNOT require that assessments are paid. The only requirements that must be met are that the candidate must be a property owner and not involved in litigation against the association. The new statute actually overrides the bylaws and covenants requirement that assessments must be current. Otherwise, it is up to the individual HOA's bylaws and covenants regarding how candidates are nominated. In our HOA, a willing property owner is enough to get put on the slate.
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
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Posted By TimB4 on 06/10/2013 7:08 AM
Posted By DavidW5 on 06/10/2013 7:05 AM

In our HOA someone who wishes to run for the board is required to submit a petition signed by 25 owners in good standing.


David, does that apply to all candidates (including sitting Board members running for reelection)?

Tim,

Yes, that applies to all candidates including current board members running for reelection. With over 800 homes, 25 signatures are pretty easy to get. I just hung around our clubhouse on a Friday evening and asked folks for their signature as they came in.

Dave

BruceF1 (Connecticut)
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Posted By DavidW5 on 06/10/2013 2:30 PM
Posted By TimB4 on 06/10/2013 7:08 AM
Posted By DavidW5 on 06/10/2013 7:05 AM

In our HOA someone who wishes to run for the board is required to submit a petition signed by 25 owners in good standing.


David, does that apply to all candidates (including sitting Board members running for reelection)?


Tim,

Yes, that applies to all candidates including current board members running for reelection. With over 800 homes, 25 signatures are pretty easy to get. I just hung around our clubhouse on a Friday evening and asked folks for their signature as they came in.

Dave


Silly requirement. Upon what law, rule of parliamentary procedure, etc. is this based? It really annoys me when grown adults behave like children!
DavidW5 (North Carolina)
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Posted By BruceF1 on 06/10/2013 3:28 PM
Posted By DavidW5 on 06/10/2013 2:30 PM
Posted By TimB4 on 06/10/2013 7:08 AM
Posted By DavidW5 on 06/10/2013 7:05 AM

In our HOA someone who wishes to run for the board is required to submit a petition signed by 25 owners in good standing.


David, does that apply to all candidates (including sitting Board members running for reelection)?


Tim,

Yes, that applies to all candidates including current board members running for reelection. With over 800 homes, 25 signatures are pretty easy to get. I just hung around our clubhouse on a Friday evening and asked folks for their signature as they came in.

Dave


Silly requirement. Upon what law, rule of parliamentary procedure, etc. is this based? It really annoys me when grown adults behave like children!

Bruce,

That's quite a charge - that we are behaving like children - when you know little or nothing about our situation.

Our HOA does alot to permit our members to inform themselves on the qualifications and agendas of those running for the board. We publish the candidates' biographies on our website and mail them to every member of the association. We hold a "meet the candidates" informal social gathering and also a "candidates forum" where the candidates who chose to participate answer questions from the audience. Therefore, it makes sense for us to keep the total number of candidates to a manageable number. One way we do that is to require that a potential candidate have an indication of at least minimal (less than 3% of members)interest among the membership. If a potential candidate is not willing to put in the modest effort to obtain the signatures, they are unlikely to become the kind of active, hard working board members our self managed community needs.

Our election procedures, prior to our first election of homeowners to replace the developer's appointees, were reviewed by the League of Woman Voters (LOWV).

A good deal of thought, debate and open discussion went into the development of our election procedures and they have served us well. If, with this information in hand you still think this means we are acting like children, then there is not much room for further discussion.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By BruceF1 on 06/10/2013 3:28 PM

Silly requirement.

As we all know, every Association is different and may have different rules or requirements. Typically, different is just that, different. If it works for that Association and applied fairly (which is why I asked if existing members had the same requirement) than so be it.

It works for that Association. It doesn't have to work for all Associations.

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Posted By BruceF1 on 06/10/2013 3:28 PM

Upon what law, rule of parliamentary procedure, etc. is this based?

Since David is from VA, I would expect that this requirement is based on
VA § 13.1-854 [emphasis added]:

The articles of incorporation or bylaws may prescribe qualifications for directors. Unless the articles of incorporation or bylaws so prescribe, a director need not be a resident of the Commonwealth or a member of the corporation.

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