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AlexM1 (Oklahoma)
Posts: 287
Posted:
In a condo complex where there are buildings and each building may have 10 or so condo units... one above and one below and each have a patio or balcony.

What is the FCC ruling/law/? as to where the dish cn be placed. I am fairly certain that it cannot be placed on the common area(on the ground outside) but believe ??? that it s permissable that a dish can be placed in/on the patio but NOT attached to the patio/balcony walls. NOW... what if a tenant/owner wants to reach a certain country and cannot pick up that particular station even if they EXTEND the dish a foot or two ouitside of the patio/balcony.....?

I cannot find anything in the FCC that would allow that tenant/owner to place the dish(even a small one) on the roof or elsewhere.... AND yet it is not fair that that particuilar tenant/owner is not ablse to pick up the news/etc from the country from which they originated...
FredS7 (Arizona)
Posts: 927
Posted:
You should probably start at the FCC

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/installing-consumer-owned-antennas-and-satellite-dishes

RobertC14 (Colorado)
Posts: 78
Posted:
here is an expanded version of the above including a faq and q&a.
http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule

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GlenL (Ohio)
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Posted:
Alex life is not fair. The way our complex is situated, the homeowners on the front of half of the buildings can orient dishes to receive a signal, for the other half it's the back units that can get a signal. The rest are just SOL (Sorry out of Luck).

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RogerC4 (Illinois)
Posts: 2
Posted:
We went through this issue several years ago. Our Covenants initially stated that satellite dishes must be mounted on the rear of the structure and that they were limited to a maximum of 18" across. Then a new resident moved in and scheduled installation of his satellite internet service. At the same time he was going to have some landscaping done so he submitted a plan of action to our Board for review and approval. The Board rejected his plan as it showed his dish which was clearly larger than 18" and in violation of our Covenants.

Within a couple of days we received a call from the gaggle of attorneys at the FCC.They informed us that our Covenants were in violation of Federal law. In a nutshell, no HOA can place any restriction on any dish that is less than one meter across. We argued that his dish was oval and the width was 42" (1.0668m). The FCC stated that it was the equivalent "surface area" of a 1m or less so that it would comply with their regulation. (the precedent had already been established)

So we then had to change our Covenants to comply with the regulation. Like it or not this will be the law of the land. Personally, I was pleased to learn of this as I wanted to install a similar dish a few years prior and was told that it was prohibited. So now I'm able to have HD service!

In your situation, to avoid the physical discrimination of the structure, you might suggest that they contact one of the satellite providers and ask to speak with their business services sales. My parents are in an HOA that did not want to see a separate dish on every roof section so they were able to negotiate a deal with DTV to have them install one dish that feeds the entire complex with very nice pricing.
DeniseH5 (Washington)
Posts: 1
Posted:
They can be placed in any limited common area. HOA's cant even tell you you have to put them in the back of the building. HOA's have to be very careful about how they word this. We just had to deal with all this in Washington. We tried to make it a approval proses and its not allowed. If I want to stick one in the middle of my driveway I can but I cant hang it over in the common area. The only thing we can stop is putting them in the roofs or siding.
EllieD (Vermont)
Posts: 446
Posted:
RogerC4,

You wrote “My parents are in an HOA that did not want to see a separate dish on every roof section so they were able to negotiate a deal with DTV to have them install one dish that feeds the entire complex”

Could you (or anyone else reading) provide additional information on the “set up” of one (1) Dish Antenna for the entire complex? Is the single Dish Antenna, roof/building mounted? Or is it a stand alone, perhaps pole mounted Dish someplace.

We are a Condominium group, that consists of a number of multiple unit buildings, and currently we allow only one (1) antenna per building, mounted on Common Area roof structure, which of course we do not have to allow per FCC and OTARD, that then can be used by any, or all of, Condo Units in that building.

All our buildings are pre-wired for Cable TV, so I am wondering if we could somehow utilize just one (1) antenna to serve multiple buildings. Of course, I can ask any Satellite Dish Installer, but it would be helpful to know beforehand how such a set up might work.

Thank you.
RobertC14 (Colorado)
Posts: 78
Posted:
one dish on the roof with 2 feeds, more in the case of HD. one feedhorn is the Vertical, the other horizontal. those feedhorns then supply a multiplexor system that switches multiple receivers (which can number in the hundreds by stacking multiplexors) to the correct feedhorn for the channel that is being watched. each multiplexor contains a preamp to minimize signal degradation. then you also have a diplexer which diplexes an ordinary over the air tv signal down the same pipe as the sat signal so you can have direct tv and standard over the air television all being fed by a set of master antenna systems. one dish and one tv antenna and a common cabling system and i highly suggest incorporating a MATV antenna system in with your master dish system.

only downer is you have to choose a service either dish or directv or free to air ku. you can't have all three sat services over the same infra structure only one sat service and terrestrial tv can feed over a common cabling system this is because all the sat services use the same 950-2050 mhz block of intermediate frequencies.

Tv uses vhf and uhf so it is possible to diplex this with the sat service.

hope that all makes sense


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RobertC14 (Colorado)
Posts: 78
Posted:
it is possible to use a master dish system to feed multiple buildings depending on their distance from each other but it can get considerably more expensive than just installing a master system on each separate building.

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RobertC14 (Colorado)
Posts: 78
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here is a diagram (and equipment images) of a typical setup
http://www.paceintl.com/attachments/HDD-24-IN.pdf

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EllieD (Vermont)
Posts: 446
Posted:
RobertC14,

Thank you for the information, and the diagram illustration.

RobertC14 (Colorado)
Posts: 78
Posted:
Your Welcome


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MikeM25 (Ohio)
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Posted By DeniseH5 on 06/12/2013 8:29 AM
They can be placed in any limited common area. HOA's cant even tell you you have to put them in the back of the building. HOA's have to be very careful about how they word this. We just had to deal with all this in Washington. We tried to make it a approval proses and its not allowed. If I want to stick one in the middle of my driveway I can but I cant hang it over in the common area. The only thing we can stop is putting them in the roofs or siding.

This is not correct...read the link above. The only place that the HOA cannot regulate, is the EXCLUSIVE USE area of the owner, which mean the patio or balcony, it cannot even protrude one inch, and not attached to the walls.. Everything else the HOA can regulate.

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