Glass in Pool Area

DEFINATELY against all 50 state's codes

you enforce by either:

by calling local law enforcement and pressing TRESPASS charges if they refuse to comply / leave

if they are not identified they are assumed to be trespassers

if they ARE identified the penalties go against THE MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION

OR

the BOD is empowered to close the pool AT ANY TIME at its sole discretion ~ and MUST DO SO if a safety violation is not IMMEDIATELY corrected

then let the 'peer pressure' from the other would be users take care of the issue

'key fobs' for ID, pool attendant during strictly limited hours of operation, volunteer 'pool committee' attendants, etc.

cameras to prove/catch violations

ASK YOUR LOCAL HOTEL / MOTEL how patrons bringing glass to the pool are handled - they are ejected from the pool area with L.E. assistance if necessary

POOLS ARE EXPENSIVE

Yes, police could be called and use the word trespassers BUT... the police WILL NOT tell
a board member where(which condo unit) the villain resides.

First JohnB26, & then Melissa suggest closing the pool for a period of time & letting peer pressure discipline the violators. I kind of like that idea. We have security staff here who'd tell the violators to throw away the glass or leave the area and that's worked just fine when glass (very rarely!) is brought to our pool area. When we have had a violation, the violators always have been apologetic, pleaded ignorance and complied--we're 43% tenant occupied. So I'm not sure why your pool users, Alex, are so rude??

But, say, to phone a member of the board and ask him or her to speak to the violators is probably too much. And I'm sure that the perps do give out false names/addresses, etc. We do have fob access to the pool so probably could figure out the violators if they lie to our staff.

How many units are in your HOA again, Alex? I think you've mentioned it before.

Honestly, I am all for the promoting of "Urban legend" here. A simple rumor about how some renter's kid got hurt by some glass at the pool and the pool had to be shut down/drained usually gets the message across. I would simply do this during a routine maintenance and be in cohoots with the pool keeper. Anyone asks why the pool is closed say there was some suspected glass found in the pool.

You can threaten or inform people all the time about the glass. Until they can no longer enter because of it...It will send the message home. It will let them all know the HOA is serious and does take care of the pool. Rules aren't just rules. They are put into action.

Although I still like the idea best to fake a bit of a bloody scene just outside the pool area... I know that is a bad idea as they will demand the pool be drained. However, if the pool is being drained anyways... May be the perfect opportunity to put a little rumor and "scene" into play...

I do not agree that creating a story about closing the pool is wise.

Oh please... There has been an urban legend story about kid's eating apples with razor blades in them at Halloween... The only time that probably happened is in the movie Halloween... People still won't trust an apple from strangers. So I say this is one of those harmless stories that cultures have passed amongst themselves for years hiding a true life lesson. Don't use glass bottles at a pool... It's just dumb.

What I WAS suggesting is that you do close the pool saying that you as a board must protect all residents and the constant presence of glass by the pool is a hazard that cannot continue. That way, Alex, the Board demonstrates it's trying to solve this problem. When you do reopen the pool after a week or whatever, let the residents discipline the violators.

I don't know about your HOA, Alex, but draining the pool is very infrequent in my HOA. It's not done unless absolutely necessary due to the expense of refilling it. Our sewer bill is tied to our water usage and is more than 100% of our water bill. In our case, the expense of getting our heated pool back up to temperature affects our gas bill too. Maybe it's way cheaper to drain/refill a pool elsewhere--I don't know.

Urban legends like the razor blades in apples actually have caused harm because so many parents believed it across the country that halloween no longer is nearly as much fun for kids as it used to be. IMO the truth is a better approach.

As Glen points out, Alex, you will be able to get the names/addresses of the violators from a police report, so call the police.

Again, Alex, how many units are in your HOA? And --how often is glass at the pool? Every day? Once a week? Once a month?

I agree with Carol...no lies, no games. Truth is best. Sometimes when people are told the truth - that the pool can be closed down due to the glass - they will comply.

Here's another suggestion.

Post a security guard at the pool entrance during open hours. Charge anyone who enters a fee to cover the cost of the guard. Let everyone know that this has come about because of glass in the pool area and that the guard (and the entry fee) will go away when the glass stops coming in but will return if glass becomes a problem once again.

The guard could also verify whether the users are residents and which units they reside in. Your association could also issue a numbered pool pass to each unit. No pass, no entry will keep out the non-residents and the guard can note which units are causing problems.

I hate to see that happen but it sounds like a complex with a lot of rowdy renters.

BTW, I used to know a guy who was the managing partner in a number of small to medium sized apartment complexes. He said every complex that had a pool had a tenant problem and the complexes without pools were also without tenant problems.

From my research, they are as expensive as owning and maintaining the roads.

if you '...shut down....to clean up broken glass.....'

make sure the pool is drained, visually 'swept', then refilled and started up properly

if you had broken glass on deck this is REQUIRED to ensure no invisible pieces are on the pool bottom

you must learn to lie PROPERLY without leaving potential LIABILITY

eg. lie about glass to 'give a lesson' ~ fail to follow through with draining and inspecting ~ someone cuts themselves ~ VOILA, lawsuit due to negligence

also hits 'em in their purses ~ ?special assessment to pay for water & chemicals?

It's a $5000 mistake if glasses is dropped poolside. Never allow it!

5 year old thread

You have to pay them. Like, out of your wallet.