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FionaC1 (Washington)
Posts: 93
Posted:
Unfortunately being on the board allows you to see everyone's standings in the financial sitting of our non profit.

Last month I came home from work and saw a foreclosure notice or rather auction for one of our board members units. Now I am on the board, I see the owner is arrear in dues almost a years worth.

The board member offered loads of reasons what is going on. Bottom line? arrear in dues > $2000 in dues according to our financial collections policy indicates one gets taken to collections.

I was told tonight that this policy is only enforced when homeowners do not communicate situations and payments not caught up on.

Our policy does NOT mention it's enforced at boards discretion... its written black and white.

Only a matter of time before foreclosure proceedings happen. our ccrs and rules for BOD do not address the situation of BOD in arrears.. and frankly the bod members seem ok with this fellow board member.

How do board members in situations likethis get removed when rules don't prohibit them from serving and to have a homeowner petition signed can't be acceptable as this is considered confidential info.. regarding the back dues.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By FionaC1 on 05/15/2013 10:33 PM

How do board members in situations likethis get removed when rules don't prohibit them from serving and to have a homeowner petition signed can't be acceptable as this is considered confidential info.. regarding the back dues.

Same way a Board with deal with any Board member issues, with one or both of the following options:

1) Remove them from Office (Pres,VP,etc.) via Majority vote of the Board.
Note: They would still be a Director.

2) Call a special meeting of the membership for the purpose of recalling that member.

You are correct, the only way to have a successful collection policy is to treat everyone equally. There can certainly be exceptions as to when a Lien is recorded. However, in my opinion, those exceptions should only occur based on some sort of repayment plan and demonstrated willingness to pay assessments (by making payments on the payment plan).

LauraR5 (Tennessee)
Posts: 220
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We don't allow anyone who's not current on dues to run for office or even vote. I can't believe that's not a policy for everyone.

We try to work with everyone before we send them to collections because it's the neighborly thing to do. At the end of the day, I can't really think of many homeowners that don't ultimately get sent to collections. Of course, if I had my way we would be a lot more aggressive about collections than we are. I think most people are chalking it up to the bad economy, but I take paying my bills very seriously and feel like everyone in our community should.

SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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As Board treasurer, I look at our outstanding balances list every month to see who's behind and by how much, so I know immediately if a Board member hits the list. After 60 days, delinquent homeowners are sent to the Association attorney and our Bylaws say people over 30 days delinquent cannot serve on the board.

Since I've been on the board, we've only had one instance where a board member was removed because of delinquencies, Our property manager told her she was in danger of losing the seat until the account was made current - she didn't do it and so the rest of us had to send her a notice. She didn't appreciate it, but that's life.

In your case, your board member needs to leave RIGHT NOW. How can he make decisions on Association expenditures when he's not even paying his fair share? Ditto for making decisions on other homeowner delinquencies - does he not understand the delinquent homeowner and everyone else would be very unhappy if they learned he's not paying either and nothing's being done? Finally, the board's failure to go after this member is a breach of their fiduciary duty - people can and do get sued for this. I don't know about you, but I'm not risking being sued because the rest of the board doesn't have the balls to take action.

Your bigger issue is taking immediate action on delinquent accounts - the longer the Board waits to take action, the more difficult it will be to collect because bankruptcies, mortgage company foreclosures and all that stuff can kick in to muddy the waters. You need to set a policy telling everyone when the account will be sent to the attorney for collection and then do it.

In our HOA, we send three nastygrams before the account is finally sent up (at 60 days delinquent). Homeowners can avoid this by negotiating a payment plan (which the Board has to approve). If they don't negotiate or renege on the agreement, we cancel the agreement and off it goes to the attorney. Everyone gets a copy of the collection policy at the end of the year when we send out the upcoming year's budget.


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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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By the way, can anyone tell me what TMI stands for in the subject line:

Subject: Board Members and TMI

RobertC14 (Colorado)
Posts: 78
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Posted By TimB4 on 05/16/2013 1:09 PM
By the way, can anyone tell me what TMI stands for in the subject line:

Subject: Board Members and TMI


i think too much information


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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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A-HA! That makes sense.
Thanks.
JulianneW (California)
Posts: 25
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Posted By LauraR5 on 05/16/2013 11:21 AM
We don't allow anyone who's not current on dues to run for office or even vote. I can't believe that's not a policy for everyone.

We try to work with everyone before we send them to collections because it's the neighborly thing to do. At the end of the day, I can't really think of many homeowners that don't ultimately get sent to collections. Of course, if I had my way we would be a lot more aggressive about collections than we are. I think most people are chalking it up to the bad economy, but I take paying my bills very seriously and feel like everyone in our community should.


Our CC&Rs are the same - if you are not current in paying assessments, you cannot be on the board, run for the board or participate on anything that requires a vote of the homeowners.
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
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We recently put a lien on a unit that was either 2 or 3 months late. In fact our dcouments state that the fee constitues a lien agains the property. This owner in the past has had a lein on his unit, caught up and the lien removed. Then he got behind again. But due to circumstances (don't want to go into detail) our President thought it best to get the lien on as soon as possible. Our members know that we do put liens on units for non payment of monthly fees and we have very few owners not paying. Once in a while we have to put a $10.00 late fee on a bill, but we don't even have to do that very often.
MatthewW4 (Arizona)
Posts: 500
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Posted By FionaC1 on 05/15/2013 10:33 PM
Our policy does NOT mention it's enforced at boards discretion... its written black and white.

Then why have a board? If everything is black-and-white with no room for discretionary judgment, the board could be replaced by a robot.

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