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JamesC (Maryland)
Posts: 282
Posted:
Private HOA in Maryland. 167 Homes.
I believe all HOA's have Rules/regulations, but how they are enforced has me bewildered.
Ours usually work if we have someone who is just a little bit lacks, but for a homeowner who could care less, what can you do?.
Someone commits an infraction, say not picking up behind their pet on the common area.
Homeowner contacts the MC. Then you contact them again. Finally they tell you they will send out the first notice. (Procedure) Gives the violator fifteen days (15) to comply. They ignore the letter. You complain again, and again until the MC says they will send warning # 2. (Procedure) Gives them another fifteen days (15). "Still they ignore". You call again, then again. The MC tells you they will send a letter of notification to appear before the board. (Procedure) Board meeting may not be held for another few weeks.
So far the process has taken almost two months for such a simple matter, but this is only one example.
Through all this, I just wonder where the rules of one warning, then two warnings, then calling before the board, with the huge timing schedule comes from. Is it the standard guidelines for ALL Hoa's?.
I have had many homeowners ask me if it is a waste of their time to make reports of infractions.
I am on our board, and have asked our MC Rep why this taks so long, and she always says she is following the laws. She gets really aggrivated with me because I think it's a stalling tactic.

Jim
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Jim, I understand your frustrations. Some of the procedures you described are necessary but some the the time durations could be shortened IMO. Our normal procedures are:

The Property is monitored weekly by the Management Company for Covenant compliance. Owners can also report problems to the Managing Agent and may request anonymity. The Agent shall digitally photograph potential violations. An information notice will advise the homeowner of the potential violation or problem. If the problems is not corrected within 10 days a Demand letter will be sent to the Owner advising of the alleged violation, the controlling regulation, a time limit for correction (typically 10 days), and the right of the Owner to request a Hearing before the Board of Directors to challenge the cited violation.

To dispute a cited violation the Owner shall promptly submit a written request for a Hearing. Upon receipt of such a request, a Hearing committee meeting will be scheduled and arguments heard. The Owner shall be mailed a Notice of the Hearing date, time, alleged violation, and the proposed sanction if a violation is confirmed and is not corrected within a revised timeframe which will be determined by the Board. The Owner will be allowed to present a statement, evidence, and witnesses to support their position. Complaintants will also be notified and heard. After the Hearing the owner will be advised in writing of the Board's decision.

When a violation is not corrected within the specified time limit, an initial fine of $50.00 is assessed. If a violation is not corrected, subsequent citations may be issued and the fine will be doubled compared to the previous Demand letter. If necessary the Association shall get a court order to correct the violation and effect corrections required. The owner’s property shall be assessed for all costs involved. This will include, but is not limited to, the costs to correct the violation, fines, fees, attorney fees and court costs.
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
.. Is it the standard guidelines for ALL Hoa's?.


No. There are no standards. For instance, many HOAs have no MC, they are "self managed".

In your case, the MC is working for your HOA, not the other way around. If the BOD is not happy with the way they operate, they can see if the MC will operate as they wish or they can find a new MC.

Ron
SC
JamesC (Maryland)
Posts: 282
Posted:
Ron:
I probably did not make my point the way I wanted.
We have established rules/regulations that spell out the fining process, but my concern is how you can effectively enforce them if you have to give fifteen day warning, then fifteen days more when they don't comply, then the process takes you to a hearing notice, etc. etc.
What happens if they fail to submit an arc request? They have already performed the work before the board is aware. I want to fine them up front the immediate $25.00 and not go through the long process.
The MC says we have to follow the established guidelines, which on items like the arc request is a waste of time.

Jim
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
Posted By JamesC on 03/15/2007 1:20 PM

Ron:
I probably did not make my point the way I wanted.
We have established rules/regulations that spell out the fining process, but my concern is how you can effectively enforce them if you have to give fifteen day warning, then fifteen days more when they don't comply, then the process takes you to a hearing notice, etc. etc.
What happens if they fail to submit an arc request? They have already performed the work before the board is aware. I want to fine them up front the immediate $25.00 and not go through the long process.
The MC says we have to follow the established guidelines, which on items like the arc request is a waste of time.

Jim


I thought you were talking about picking up dog poop.

If a homeowner makes a modification without ARC approval the ARC can require the modification to be removed in addition to a fine.

There are no "guidelines", there are written proceedures in the CC&Rs, bylaws, etc. These must be followed even if you don't like them.


Ron
SC
GloriaM (North Carolina)
Posts: 829
Posted:
Most states have a Planned Community Act and fines can only be assessed according to that Act. North Carolina just had their Act amended January 1, 2006 to $100.00 per day. Therefore if an Owner did not comply after the first letter, the board could take the Owner to a Hearing. After making a decision, a notice would go out to the Owner according to that decision. Check with your states Planned Community Act and follow that, you can't go wrong.
HaroldS1 (Arizona)
Posts: 314
Posted:
James: Good advice from Gloria. It's called Due Process. Harold
JudithW (Texas)
Posts: 10
Posted:
I can understand having all these periods for certain things, such as a homeowner who builds something not in compliance with the CCRs who may have done it because they did not know or understand a complicated set of CCRs or the CCRs are vague (ours sure are) as to what to do or how. A time period may be needed for correction, especially if it is going to cost the homeowner money. What I don't get is all the warnings for ongoing and repetitive activities, like picking up after your dog. This is not a "correctable" violation; it is an activity that needs to be stopped. Our association is not gated and I have found that when there is a city ordinance governing certain things, there is a better response when the activity is brought to the attention of the city. They can move faster and our property taxes are utilized to enforce those ordinances.
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
Posted By JudithW on 03/16/2007 4:40 AM
.........I have found that when there is a city ordinance governing certain things, there is a better response when the activity is brought to the attention of the city. They can move faster and our property taxes are utilized to enforce those ordinances.


I agree 100%. We've already paid for this service and a visit from a uniformed government official is far more apt to get the attention of the violator than a leter from the HOA.


Ron
SC

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