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CharlesW1 (Georgia)
Posts: 826
Posted:
I’ll try to keep this short. I’ve always received some very good advice from many of you. I’m hoping this particular time won’t be any different.

As many of you may know, I’m the Vice President of our HOA here in Georgia. We have a MC who I don’t TRUST. They have not given me the advice I feel they should have given on previously important HOA situations.

We are currently pursuing to “opt” into a POA. We are now an HOA. The board was emailed the draft (18 pages), 3 page memo, 2 page information sheet w/ ballot (fore or against vote for each of the changes) and a proxy. A total of 24 pages staple together as one packet and stuffed into a larger envelope. The board felt that we would receive a better response from homeowners who don’t take the initiative to show up at the meeting (27th) or mail the proxy back to us, to include a self addressed envelope with this packet, giving them no excuse.

Having prior sales background, I felt that the packet we mail to homeowners should all be in one envelope as was suggested by our PM. I felt and still feel that all this information shouldn’t be stapled together though. I feel that the 18 pages should be stapled together. The 3 page memo should be then fastened separately. The 2 page information sheets secured by themselves and the proxy as a separate sheet and of a colored paper appose to being printed on “plain white paper”

This is where I need your advice. After making this suggestion to our president she then consulted with our (PM). He then advoced the entire board that because it was a legal document, he said that we couldn't "legally" change the color! Portfolio manager advised us to leave it white. I don’t know, I’m only a volunteer. I assumed that printing the proxy on colored paper wouldn’t make the proxy any less valid, as far as “legal or otherwise”, that doesn’t seem to make much sense to me.

Is this true?

I had taken the suggestions many of you had previously provided and figured I would certainly put them into practice, when the opportunity came to do so. Such as numbering the proxy (1of 275, 2 of 275, etc), printing the proxy of colored pager (my idea), numbering the memo (roman numerals), numbering the information sheet (again roman numerals), and stapling them separately, not as one packet!

I apologize for the terrible long post, but I didn’t want to leave anything out. I hope this will certainly help you to help me.

Thank you all
Chuck W.

Charles E. Wafer Jr.
DJ1 (Ontario)
Posts: 798
Posted:
I don't know about the color other than to say I've received hundreds of proxies for stocks I own and they have always been on white paper...but various sizes ie postcards to 8X11".

I REALLY like your idea of stapling the different sections as that would assist to flag the different types of documents. Too often get big collections of pages and you have to go thru the whole thing to find out what it is .....or just throw it in the garbage and possibly miss important mailings.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
Charles:
First, I applaud your persistence in wanting to be a Board member who truly serves his community by being proactive in all things.
To answer your question, we have always recd proxies on white paper but I can't imagine color would change the integrity or validity of the document. Also, a proxy is only a piece of paper and useless (color or not) until it is actually completed accurately and forwarded to the appropriate party to be used as a vote at the meeting.
I do agree with you that to give the proxy its importance it should be separate from the rest of the packet.

But, more important IMO, is the info sheet that the residents will receive. Will this info be adequate for residents to digest before they make their vote--for or against moving to a POA. A packet of info is very daunting for one to read and for the Board to expect them to actually understand the complexities, vote by proxy and return the proxy to you to be counted.

With your community's past history of resident apathy, it may be prudent for the Board to plan a door-to-door campaign to explain what is at stake here--and mostly, WHY CHANGE TO A POA?--WHAT IT WILL DO FOR YOU...and for what its worth to you...why does your Board want to change? 'Better for the community' is not REASON ENOUGH--you need to present specifics to your residents. You have already invested community monies to have this draft prepared without getting a community feel whether this will go over or not, and obviously there will be more expense incurred when and if you actually do file as a POA.

I don't want to pour a bucket of cold water on you or the Board;
however, its important to look at the whole picture and especially to have a Plan-B if Plan-A doesn't work--meaning it may come to the Board going out on foot to rally the residents. At the very least, you may want to schedule a 1 hr. discussion time on pros and cons of HOA vs. POA prior to the start of the meeting on the 27th.

I wish you great success with your latest project.
PaulM
CharlesW1 (Georgia)
Posts: 826
Posted:
I apologize for not responding to you both sooner, apparently when the new HOATalk was set up, I had to check off that I wanted all post to be forwarded to my email address.

With all the information I have received in the past. I thought it was rather strange that I didn’t get any responses or any other posts. I began to wonder HMMMMM I then saw the box at the top left of the forum page wasn’t checked. I had it checked, but apparently it didn’t stay that way.

We(the board) met yesterday afternoon and we decided that we will leave the proxies and the ballots white, but we will number them 1 -275, 2-275, etc. Because we will be separating the packet, will make the proxy and ballot more noticeable alone.

PaulM,

We have a meeting date set for March 27th. We will be mailing these POA packets to homeowners to review, no later than this Thursday, given each of them 10 days to review.

Theoretically having an hour long meeting before the meeting on the 27th would be great (my board would agree) in theory, but we know that the turn out wouldn’t be good either way. We would be just spending more money and our time. As the ole’ saying goes “like beating a dead horse”

Appreciate your suggestions.

Chuck W.

Charles E. Wafer Jr.

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