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JenniferL6 (Illinois)
Posts: 11
Posted:
Our insurance agent called yesterday to let us know that one of our unit owners tried to get herself added as a named party on the board's property insurance (townhouses). Apparently it's related to her trying to refinance her unit.

Our agent denied her request, since he saw no valid reason for it and of course does not have any authorization from us to deal with her, but why would she be trying to do this? She is also a real estate agent so I find it hard to believe she didn't know that she was doing something unorthodox.

Thanks
EllieD (Vermont)
Posts: 446
Posted:
JenniferL6,

You wrote “townhouses” – by that do you mean condominiums, and the Condo Master Policy?
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
I think all the owner is looking for is some assurance that there is insurance. If memory serves me correctly (having owned and sold a townhouse), there is a method of doing this and it is a standard request.

An aside but along these lines. Our Covenants say the HOA will be named as co-payee on ones homeowners insurance. Keep in mind we are standalone patio homes and one insures there home as a private home. The reason the association is a co-payee is if say ones home burns to the ground they cannot take the insurance money and run. Also it is to protect the association that the home will be restored to an approved standard which means the same style/design as the other homes.

We get phone calls from people saying my insurance agent says they never heard of such a thing. Once explained why plus the fact that they signed and agreed to it, they do it.

We had one agent decide to test us. A quick letter to the agent from our attorney stopped him dead in his tracks.

My point is that not all insurance agents know of what they speak of.

Hope this helps.

SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Given that many real estate agents know next to nothing about HOAs, I can't say I'm surprised.

I live in a townhouse community and everyone is supposed to have their own insurance, although the association's master policy covers the unit structure. I remember a few years ago, my mortgage company asked for a copy of the master policy certificate so they would know there was coverage and I remember seeing something last summer indicating many banks and mortgage companies were asking for this information. Maybe that's what this lady is talking about.

You may want to run an article in your association's newsletter educating people about the differences between the master policy vs. individual insurance (perhaps the master insurance company can help with that) That may cut down on future confusion

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
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Posted By SheliaH on 04/25/2013 1:53 PM
Given that many real estate agents know next to nothing about HOAs, I can't say I'm surprised.

I live in a townhouse community and everyone is supposed to have their own insurance, although the association's master policy covers the unit structure. I remember a few years ago, my mortgage company asked for a copy of the master policy certificate so they would know there was coverage and I remember seeing something last summer indicating many banks and mortgage companies were asking for this information. Maybe that's what this lady is talking about.

You may want to run an article in your association's newsletter educating people about the differences between the master policy vs. individual insurance (perhaps the master insurance company can help with that) That may cut down on future confusion

I agree with Shelia. Typical request and the term "unit structure insurance" rings a bell.

JenniferL6 (Illinois)
Posts: 11
Posted:
We had provided her with a copy of the policy a couple of weeks ago, when she asked for it. That was where she got the name and phone number of our agent so I know she didn't lose it.

I've dealt with this particular owner in a non-HOA related matter before and she is completely untrustworthy. I guess we will have to wait and see what ridiculousness she has up her sleeve this time.

(It is condo insurance, as the buildings are attached).
MatthewW4 (Arizona)
Posts: 500
Posted:
Jennifer,

Did you ever play that old game called "Telephone?" One person whispers a message into the next person's ear and he is supposed to repeat what the first one said. By the time the message makes it to the last person it has been totally transformed into something unrecognizable.

That sounds like what has happened here. The owner is trying to refinance and the lender wants some sort of proof that the structure is insured. The owner repeated what she thought they said to your agent and he repeated back to you what he thinks she said. And you told us what you think he told you.

I would suggest asking the lender to contact the insurer directly to request what they need. No one knows what the lender wants better than the lender himself and you have seen what happens when others who do not understand the request get involved.

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