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BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
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Posted:
We are working on having taxes removed from our utility bills since we are a non profit organization. (Why this was never done before, I don't know)
I have a form from the utility company to complete and it asks for a Nebraska Exemption Certificate number beginning with 05-. What I have and have been using at companies where purchases are made is a Nebraska Department of Revenue State Identification number that does not begin in 05. Does anyone know the difference. Should we have a separte Exemption Certification number from our State identification number?
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
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Posted By BonnieG1 on 04/07/2013 1:16 PM
We are working on having taxes removed from our utility bills since we are a non profit organization. (Why this was never done before, I don't know)
I have a form from the utility company to complete and it asks for a Nebraska Exemption Certificate number beginning with 05-. What I have and have been using at companies where purchases are made is a Nebraska Department of Revenue State Identification number that does not begin in 05. Does anyone know the difference. Should we have a separte Exemption Certification number from our State identification number?

I am a professional tax preparer and I can tell you that not all non-profit corporations are necessarily tax-exempt. Also, an organization can be exempt from federal tax but not be exempt from state tax. Also, an organization can be exempt from income tax (federal, state, or both) and not be exempt from sales and use tax (which sounds like the type of tax you are referring to if it's on your utility bill).

I am not familiar with the tax laws in Nebraska, but in many states to be exempt from sales and use tax requires that the organization either be purchasing goods for resale, or that the organization be a charitable, 501(c)(3) organization. Being simply non-profit is not enough in many states.

I would expect that if you have a certificate that enables you to purchase goods exempt from sales tax, then you should also be able to use that same certificate to purchase other services, such as utilities, exempt from sales tax.

If the utility company is requesting a tax ID number that begins with 05-, that appears to me to be an IRS EIN which would be your corporate EIN.

I am curious as to just how your HOA is organized and to how you have justified your tax-exempt status.

Federal and state tax laws are very complicated and easily misunderstood by the average citizen. That's what provides job security for those who are professional tax preparers.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
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Bonnie,

I should have asked, what type of utility bill are you referring to? Electric, gas, phone, other? Also, what tax are you trying to be exempt from; sales tax? Federal excise tax?
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
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Bruce,

Thanks for you reply. After I posted my question, I did a little more research and we may not be exempt for the taxes.

The bill I was referring to was our Metropolitan Utilties District bill (MUD) or heat and water bill.

I was getting really excited when I thought we could save $50.00 a month on taxes, but I guess I got too excited too soon. I will need to check further itno this.

Thanks so much for your advise. It is a great help.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
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Posted By BonnieG1 on 04/07/2013 2:43 PM
Bruce,

Thanks for you reply. After I posted my question, I did a little more research and we may not be exempt for the taxes.

The bill I was referring to was our Metropolitan Utilties District bill (MUD) or heat and water bill.

I was getting really excited when I thought we could save $50.00 a month on taxes, but I guess I got too excited too soon. I will need to check further itno this.

Thanks so much for your advise. It is a great help.

MUD? LOL!
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
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Typically there are two nonprofits. Charitable/church/etc AND....... not-for-profits. Your HOA is a not-for-profit, so it wouldn't be able to take advantage of the same tax benefits.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
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Posted By SteveM9 on 04/08/2013 8:01 AM
Typically there are two nonprofits. Charitable/church/etc AND....... not-for-profits.

Actually, the IRS recognizes many more than just two categories of tax-exempt organizations. There's 501(c)(1), 501(c)(3), 501(c)(4), 501(c)(5), 501(c)(6), 501(c)(7) and on and on and on and 501(d) and 501(e) and on and on and on. It's all spelled out in IRS publication 557.

Remember, the IRS plays by their own rules, which may not agree with those of anyone else.

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