ShelleyH
Posts: 11
Posts: 11
Posted:
Hello-
Wondered if anyone has any insight into this matter.
Our HOA is 20 years old. We had a voluntary membership from 1986-1996, but found it feasible to pursue Permament Membership status, and passed a Declaration of Permanent Membership in 1996. People could choose to become permanent members, whereby they would pay annual dues for use and upkeep of the common area and HOA facilities (including pool and tennis courts). The permanent membership would become part of their property deed. Those who chose not to consent could not use the neighborhood facilities.
In 2005 our HOA tried (but ultimately failed) to pass new covenants after our old ones expired. At that time one member began to do research on our 1996 Declaration of Permanent Membership. He found we only had 99 consent forms signed by the given date required on the Declaration itself, when we needed 100 consent forms in order for the Declaration to be valid. No one knew we were short one consent form until 2005 - NINE years after our HOA Permanent Membership had been in place. With that knowledge, another member attempted to get out of permanent membership, but the HOA attorney advised the board NO WAY, so the person dropped it.
Back to 1996. Apparently our HOA pres at the time must not have counted the consents correctly. He signed the affidavit as though all was in order. He claims he thought we had 103 consent forms signed by the due date - we actually had 104 RECORDED about six weeks later. (We now have 125 permanent members out of 158 homeowners.)
Flash forward to 2006. We recently drafted and passed new covenants. Since the passage, one member sent a threatening letter to the board wanting out of permanent membership; noting among other things, the 99 vs. 100 issue of our 1996 Declaration. Our attorney is drafting a letter to them as they're threatening to take this to court if they are not let out of permanent membership.
Sorry for the lengthy flash back and forward post. If I haven't made you dizzy or put you to sleep and you have some insight or viewpoint, would love to hear it!
Shelley
Wondered if anyone has any insight into this matter.
Our HOA is 20 years old. We had a voluntary membership from 1986-1996, but found it feasible to pursue Permament Membership status, and passed a Declaration of Permanent Membership in 1996. People could choose to become permanent members, whereby they would pay annual dues for use and upkeep of the common area and HOA facilities (including pool and tennis courts). The permanent membership would become part of their property deed. Those who chose not to consent could not use the neighborhood facilities.
In 2005 our HOA tried (but ultimately failed) to pass new covenants after our old ones expired. At that time one member began to do research on our 1996 Declaration of Permanent Membership. He found we only had 99 consent forms signed by the given date required on the Declaration itself, when we needed 100 consent forms in order for the Declaration to be valid. No one knew we were short one consent form until 2005 - NINE years after our HOA Permanent Membership had been in place. With that knowledge, another member attempted to get out of permanent membership, but the HOA attorney advised the board NO WAY, so the person dropped it.
Back to 1996. Apparently our HOA pres at the time must not have counted the consents correctly. He signed the affidavit as though all was in order. He claims he thought we had 103 consent forms signed by the due date - we actually had 104 RECORDED about six weeks later. (We now have 125 permanent members out of 158 homeowners.)
Flash forward to 2006. We recently drafted and passed new covenants. Since the passage, one member sent a threatening letter to the board wanting out of permanent membership; noting among other things, the 99 vs. 100 issue of our 1996 Declaration. Our attorney is drafting a letter to them as they're threatening to take this to court if they are not let out of permanent membership.
Sorry for the lengthy flash back and forward post. If I haven't made you dizzy or put you to sleep and you have some insight or viewpoint, would love to hear it!
Shelley