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CrystalK1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 30
Posted:
Our HOA was formed in 1968 under Michigan PA 137. By statute, the term of existence is 30 years unless the governing documents are renewed. After looking though all the documents, we cannot find that the governing documents were ever renewed.

In 2011 the "30 year issue" was discovered by a trustee and brought to our board's attention. The President at that time was someone who refused to call meetings, authorize funds, or respond to members. He was generally rude, hostile, and combative. He was voted out of office last June. (I've written about him elsewhere in this forum.)

In December, the then-President filed suit to ask a judge to declare, based on the expiration of governing documents, that our HOA does not exist.

Our HOA is comprised of a beach, private roads, and about 100 properties.

Today I met with our Township Supervisor, who told me that if our HOA is dissolved, the Township will *not* maintain the roads. (Currently, almost all of members' annual dues are spent on road maintenance, including grading, road material, dust control, snow removal, and ice control.)

Our HOA has liability insurance that includes E&O coverage. Our case is being handled by an attorney firm hired by our insurance company. I think the legal strategy will be to ask the judge for time to re-incorporate.

I should add that all but one or two members very much want our HOA to exist.

If the judge declares that our HOA no longer exists, what happens to the private beach and private roads? Who maintains them?

LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Crystal,

Who holds the deed to the roads and the beach? The reason I ask is that many times roads are built on easements and have no separate deeds. A beach could be done the same way but I am not familiar with how they are normally handled.

I know of at least one court case where the court ruled that those who use an easement are collectively responsible for its maintenance even if no formal organization exists.

ElaineS2 (California)
Posts: 47
Posted:
Crystal-
I don't know, but I sincerely doubt that the judge will do anything other than allow you to re-incorporate.

I was born and raised in Michigan and when your HOA was formed, my late husband was elected to the Michigan House of Representatives.

I am not a lawyer, but I believe that with the financial mess the state is in now, the township would prefer that the HOA is re-incorporated and if you just follow the proper steps and file the papers with the secretary of state, you will get the responsibility back.

I doubt that anyone sees any profit to be made by attempting to thwart your plans, so I suspect you will be able to move ahead without problems.

One of my nephews is still living outside Flint, and the mayor offered to GIVE him a big chunk of city properties which owed back taxes if only he would keep the grass cut. He declined.

The township doesn't want the property. They'll tell that to the judge.

Good Luck Dear.

I know how expensive it is to maintain roads with that weather.

KevinK7 (Florida)
Posts: 1,343
Posted:
I imagine transfer of ownership of common properties could transfer to the municipality and a special taxing district could be created affecting the former HOA. These would replace the HOA assessments and appear on the individual's tax bill.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
The CC&Rs acted as your private road agreement (PRA).

Without the CC&Rs, everyone would be responsible for their portion of the road. I would suspect that without an actual PRA attached to the deeds that some banks may be leery of financing new buyers.

The same might go for the beach as well.

The other option would be to find some entity (city, county, another Association) to take responsibility of the road and ownership of the beach.

My advice (for what it's worth), if people don't want an HOA with the rules and regs, that the owners agree to a simple agreement to fund the maintenance, repair, etc. of the common elements and not include all the other build/use restrictions.

CrystalK1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 30
Posted:
Thank you so much for the responses and the excellent comments and questions.

We don't believe there are separate deeds for the roads and the beach. The roads and beach are parts of the original plat maps. (Our HOA was formed from five old, separate, abutting plats.)

The Township Supervisor told me that the Township does not want the roads and beach, and he doesn't believe the judge can mandate them to the Township. (Our HOA roads were laid out in the 1920s. The roads are narrow, lack turnarounds and proper drainage, and are not up to current building codes.)

The comment about the PRA is excellent. More evidence that to dissolve our HOA at the hearing next month, without allowing time to re-incorporate, would cause harm to all the property owners.

Almost all the current HOA property owners are in favor of our HOA's existence and the fact that we take care of the roads. The Plaintiff has maybe one or two other members in agreement with him, but that's all.

The Plaintiff (and his attorney) might not understand that, if the HOA is dissolved, NO ONE will take care of the roads.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
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Posted By CrystalK1 on 02/15/2013 7:03 AM
if the HOA is dissolved, NO ONE will take care of the roads.

And if no one takes care of the roads, all who live on it would be included in any legal action (likely for negligence) if an accident happened that could be contributed to the condition of the road.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
great advice so far. Let me summarize.

Judge likely to rule that the HOA will reform, and life goes on again.

If he rules the HOA is defunct, then he will either give the roads and common property to the city (who will open the beaches to the public) or set up a special overseer (who's salary the owners will pay) to manage the HOA. If the city gets the burden, they will set up a special tax for everyone, and charge everyone as part of their property taxes.

Either way, the owners lose control of the areas, AND, get to pay the salary of someone to do the job. So, whatever you were paying in the past, prepare to be shocked. because you will pay all that, more, AND an $40,000 or more salary on top of it.

If the city gets the roads, prepare for a special treat: road repair, widening, upgrades, etc. to make them city legal. You will get your share of that bill too, and the city will NOT spread it among all citizens, just your former HOA.

SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
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If the judge declares that our HOA no longer exists, what happens to the private beach and private roads? Who maintains them?


One thing you have overlooked is mortgage companies. The banks are really starting to crack down on paperwork. If the HOA does not exist, and there is no road maintenance agreement with your neighbors, no bank will touch it. Which means, it will not be eligible for a mortgage or refinance with a new bank. Which means you need to find a cash buyer. This could mean a 50% reduction in your selling price.

Not good.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By CrystalK1 on 02/15/2013 7:03 AM

The Plaintiff (and his attorney) might not understand that, if the HOA is dissolved, NO ONE will take care of the roads.

The plaintiff has misunderstood his obligations. There is a legally enforceable obligation for users to contribute to the maintenance of roads and other common elements whether there is a formal association or not.

The plaintiff and all other owners will still have to pony up.
CrystalK1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 30
Posted:
So many great points have been made here.

SteveM9 brings up an important consideration:

"One thing you have overlooked is mortgage companies. The banks are really starting to crack down on paperwork. If the HOA does not exist, and there is no road maintenance agreement with your neighbors, no bank will touch it. Which means, it will not be eligible for a mortgage or refinance with a new bank. Which means you need to find a cash buyer. This could mean a 50% reduction in your selling price."

And LarryB13 is correct about this as well, based on my conversation with the Township Supervisor yesterday:

The plaintiff has misunderstood his obligations. There is a legally enforceable obligation for users to contribute to the maintenance of roads and other common elements whether there is a formal association or not.

We will do our best to persuade the judge to allow time to re-incorporate our HOA.

CrystalK1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 30
Posted:
Our HOA's articles of incorporation from 1968 state that the term of existence is "perpetual".

But Michigan's PA 137, which states that the term of existence shall not exceed 30 years, takes precedence, correct?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
It depends on the language used in the statute.
Can you provide a link to it?
CrystalK1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 30
Posted:
Michigan Public Act 137 of 1929 is the Incorporation of Summer Resort Owners. Here is a link to the text:

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(tstefl45tmg5v23r24ixic45))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectname=mcl-act-137-of-1929
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Crystal,

Well if the Corporation was never renewed or reincorporated under 450.2815, the NONPROFIT CORPORATION ACT, then it's likely that the law will require the township to take control of the roads and common areas:

455.220 Corporate term of existence; expiration; cessation of jurisdiction.

Sec. 20.

When a corporation, organized under this act, shall dissolve or its term of existence expires by limitation, all jurisdiction over streets, alleys and highways shall cease and the said streets, alleys and highways shall thereupon become dedicated to the use of the public, and in such case the lands of the members shall be cleared of all jurisdiction conferred by the provisions of this act.

This of course means, the private roads and private beach becomes public. It also means that all the concerns previously provided about liability and private road agreement become mute under this statute.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
Ask the judge to help you keep your HOA, even if it's a "new" HOA. The alternatives are undesirable as property access could fall into a limbo. Blah.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
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Posted By TimB4 on 02/15/2013 6:50 PM
Crystal,

Well if the Corporation was never renewed or reincorporated under 450.2815, the NONPROFIT CORPORATION ACT, then it's likely that the law will require the township to take control of the roads and common areas:

455.220 Corporate term of existence; expiration; cessation of jurisdiction.

Sec. 20.

When a corporation, organized under this act, shall dissolve or its term of existence expires by limitation, all jurisdiction over streets, alleys and highways shall cease and the said streets, alleys and highways shall thereupon become dedicated to the use of the public, and in such case the lands of the members shall be cleared of all jurisdiction conferred by the provisions of this act.

This of course means, the private roads and private beach becomes public. It also means that all the concerns previously provided about liability and private road agreement become mute under this statute.

Tim,

I think you have misunderstood a part of this. While the roads become "dedicated to the use of the public," they do not become property of a public agency nor the obligation of an agency to maintain.

Easements for roads typically are dedicated either for exclusive ingress and egress by certain persons, such as members of an association, or for use by the public. (Non-exclusive ingress and egress is usually interpretted as the same as a dedication to the public.)

We have had a number of opinions from the courts in Arizona in recent years about easements and one argument that is raised and shot down repeatedly is that a road is not public unless a public agency has agreed to accept ownership or responsibility. The courts have held, in effect, that granting use to the public is a separate issue from public ownership or public maintenance.

If the roads in Crystal's development were easements over private property, the owners would not lose title to their land under the cited statute but they would be powerless to prevent the general public from using the roads.

Left unanswered by the above statute is what happens if the roads and/or beach are on property deeded to the association?
CrystalK1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 30
Posted:
I think LarryB13 is correct about our HOA's roads and beach.

The Township supervisor told me (and will tell our attorney, and the Plaintiff's attorney, and the judge next month...) that he does not accept ownership or responsibility of the roads and beach.

Even if the judge rules next month that the HOA is operating illegally (because of the administrative error of not renewing the governing documents within 30 years), the roads and beach are still private property.

In fact, a ruling in favor of the plaintiff would be lose-lose for everyone, including the plaintiff. We would not have funds to take care of the roads, but we would still have the responsibility to take care of the roads.

Regarding the Michigan Nonprofit Act, there is an AG Opinion that says when there is confusion or an inconsistency, the Business Corporation Act takes precedence. I know that many HOA's are formed under the Nonprofit Act, but my understanding is that our HOA has different needs because of the roads and beach.

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