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JeanB8 (Arizona)
Posts: 5
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CC&Rs specifically state that a Board can decide assessment fees and how to spend those fees for the maintenance of the HOA common areas. However, the Board I'm on wants to divert some funds to donate to a park that is being redone OUTSIDE of our HOA without homeowner approval. I've read online that this is a violation (breach of fiduciary duty) of CC&Rs and the homeowners could sue the board for spending money elsewhere that was collected for common areas. I'm opposed to it but want to know if anyone has dealt with this issue.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
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Posted By JeanB8 on 02/14/2013 1:45 PM
CC&Rs specifically state that a Board can decide assessment fees and how to spend those fees for the maintenance of the HOA common areas. However, the Board I'm on wants to divert some funds to donate to a park that is being redone OUTSIDE of our HOA without homeowner approval. I've read online that this is a violation (breach of fiduciary duty) of CC&Rs and the homeowners could sue the board for spending money elsewhere that was collected for common areas. I'm opposed to it but want to know if anyone has dealt with this issue.

Well, depending on the amount and how such a donation compares to the amount that is spent on the association's property and the overall budget it could have negative tax consequences.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Jean,

How much money (in dollars and cents) does the board wish to donate and what percentage of your annual budget does that amount represent? If the donation is made, will it jeopardize your HOA's fincial position?

Technically, you may be correct that this is a breach of your CC&R's if there is language in your declaration specifically prohibiting such contributions. Whether it is also a breach of fiduciary duty depends a lot on the circumstances. The HOA may receive some goodwill and recognition as a good neighbor in return for this donation and, if the donation does not impair the HOA's own operations, is not likely to be seen as a breach of fiduciary duty.

Does your HOA have a park of its own or are owners from your association using this park?
ElaineS2 (California)
Posts: 47
Posted:
Jean

I'm with Larry. Whether it is illegal is up to your own governing documents. Most are pretty vague about specifics regarding the business decisions of the Board. It's not like somebody is personally profiting directly from HOA funds, which is expressly forbidden.

One Neighborhood Association Board I was on regularly donated to the local Boys and Girls club where we held some of our larger events for free. It was a win-win and everyone was happy to do it.

That same Association lobbied hard for a beautiful picnic area and dog park right next door to our neighborhood, and when it was done, we provided free labor to flip the burgers for the grand opening barbeque which was paid for by the city. When I applied to get a grant for our bilingual website, the neighborhood policeman testified for us at the interview. One hand washes the other.

If you are a new Board member, find someone who has some institutional memory and see how these things have been handled in the past. Perhaps the Board is sure this is acceptable and you can well afford it. If it still bothers you, try to get them to take an informal (no cost) vote or poll of members.

Talk to the other Board members and to others in the community before you take a stand you may regret. If you think the HOA cannot afford the funds, perhaps you could suggest a work day where members of the community tend the grounds or help with the construction or maintenance of the park......

The long view may be this...Your neighbors will have constant use of the park at no cost, It may become almost an annex which you can use and enjoy without paying to maintain. That's nice. And if you are seen as the informal caretakers or supporters in some way, then should there arise some unsafe or undesireable situation in the park some night, a phone call from your Board may easily achieve the disciplinary action needed from local authorities. It's called local politics, Jean.

Good Luck.

JeanB8 (Arizona)
Posts: 5
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Just for clarification, I'm not a new board member and am not opposed to the park. However, the board has never in the past used funds outside the HOA and I'm concerned that this sets a precedent where the current board or future boards can use funds for other non-profits or other uses. I do a lot of volunteer work so I'm certainly not against non-profit donations. The issue here is it right or even legal for the board to decide to use funds at their discretion outside of the HOA without homeowners' approval. This is the basis for the question. I've done research and I've found several HOAs that have in fact sued their board for this type of scenario. I just want to cover all bases and get feedback if anyone has encountered this situation.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Jean,

Typically the governing documents, usually the CC&Rs, specify what the Assessments are for. If the CC&Rs specify the purpose of the assessment, then that is all they can be used for. Here is what ours say:

"The assessments levied by the Association shall be used exclusively for the purpose of promoting the recreation, health, safety and welfare of the residents in the properties (including administrative and overhead expense) and in particular for the improvement and maintenance of the Common Areas, services and facilities devoted to this purpose and related to the use and enjoyment of the said Common Area."

Expecting that you have similar language, then this is what the money is to go for and, by the use of the bolded language, this is all it can go for.

With that being said, my Association does make a $100 donation every year to the volunteer fire department in return for them escorting Santa around the development. Past Boards have rationalized the expense under "promoting the recreation." Personally, I like having Santa come around. However, if anyone does raise an objection, I will be the first one to recommend dropping the donation as it falls into a grey area of authorized expenses.

Personal opinion, if I was on your Board, I would not support the donation.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
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Jean,

I don't care about HOA documents. It's not right that mandatory HOA dues are being sent to outside organizations for outside projects. Let your neighbors use their discretionary income for projects outside your HOA's literal property domain.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
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Posted By TimB4 on 02/15/2013 5:49 AM

"The assessments levied by the Association shall be used exclusively for the purpose of promoting the recreation, health, safety and welfare of the residents in the properties (including administrative and overhead expense) and in particular for the improvement and maintenance of the Common Areas, services and facilities devoted to this purpose and related to the use and enjoyment of the said Common Area."

Tim,

I reached a different conclusion. While you focused on "exclusively" the phrase "for the purpose of promoting .." puts a different spin on things. That would allow the board to contribute to virtually any cause that would even remotely benefit "the recreation, health, safety and welfare of the residents." This section does not limit the board to spending money exclusively for the acquisition, maintenance, repair, or improvement of real or personal property owned by the association.

BTW, our board meets in the public library in a rather isolated town of about 500 in northern Arizona. We have used that library for at least 8 years without charge. When I was on the board, one member proposed that we donate $500 to the library as they had been very accommodating to us and received nothing in return. The board, including myself, voted unanimously in favor. I have never lost a wink of sleep over that donation. That donation was equal to about 1/3 of one percent of our annual budget.

The OP also wrote that "I've done research and I've found several HOAs that have in fact sued their board for this type of scenario." I am unaware of any published opinions in Arizona on this subject.

JeanB8 (Arizona)
Posts: 5
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Kelly, I tend to agree with you. Our CCRs are more specific than Tim's and they state that assessments are to be used for repairs and maintenance of HOA common areas. Hence my concerns. Larry, I understand what you're saying. However, the issue is legality. Even though your Board voted to donate money to the library (a nice gesture), was it within your scope of responsibility to do that and technically was it legal? Our HOA is set up on email communications and a website. An informal vote of the membership would make more sense or simply asking if anyone would like to give contributions on their own. I do appreciate everyone's feedback on this though. I tend to be more cautious so want to look at all sides. When this board took over, we were hit with a lawsuit from a homeowner on another issue that the previous board didn't resolve. This suit was just resolved six months ago (HOA lost) so perhaps I'm being overly concerned. It just seems to me that a Board shouldn't set a precedent of expanding their responsibilities; it would be too easy to continue to abuse that.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Jean,

I am curious where your association gets funds for insurance and mailing costs if the income from assessments can be used only for repairs and maintenance of common areas. If your board wished to add an improvement to common areas, such as lighting, where would money for improvements come from? If you were to incur legal costs, where would that money come from? Every association has costs beyond simple repair and maintenance and it is hard to believe that CC&R's would be written so narrowly as to exclude all other expenses.
JeanB8 (Arizona)
Posts: 5
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Larry, I was simply referring to the upkeep and maintenance part that is limited to HOA common areas since the discussion is concerning upkeep of a park outside the HOA. Of course, there is additional verbiage about insurance costs, utilities, legal, repair, etc. The Board can also determine special assessments for major repairs, such as roads, which we have done. But, again, that also states the funds are for repair or replacement of HOA property and common areas.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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I would simply tell your board that there are tax ramifications involved if they donate to this park that would effect everybody and their budget. Remind them that the money is NOT their money but EVERY MEMBERS money. If they choose to donate then they should do it on their own dime and form their own private group of donators. It should NOT be from the general funds of the HOA.

Boards tend to forget the fact that the HOA's budget/money is EVERYONE'S money. They tend to want to be protective of it and spend it much like their own finances. The truth is that it's like leaving your checkbook on the dining room table for all to see. They would be the parents and the members their children on deciding how that money is to be spent.

Someone wise told me this: "It is NOT your money but EVERYONE's money. You are President to REPRESENT what the members want". That means if the members want to pain the roads "red" my job as president was to organize the project and the money to paint the road red. Captain of a sinking ship that the shipmates always wanted more rum to go their way...LOl!

Former HOA President
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Our Covenants are rather simply worded in that they say:

""The assessments for herein shall be used for the general purposes of promoting the common benefit and enjoyment of the Owners and Occupants of Lots, including the maintenance of real and personal property, all as may be more specifically authorized from time to time by the BOD.""

Our BOD can raise dues 5% per year without any owner approval. Any amount other then that must be approved by 2/3rds of the "Total Association Vote". I read that to say if there are 300 homes in the association (forget qualified voters which is another issue), then 200 must say yes for it to be approved.

200 yes, 1 no, 201 votes total and approved.

200 yes, 100 no, 300 votes total and approved.

199 yes and at least 1 no vote (no matter how many vote no), it fails.

It is not saying 2/3rds (200 of the 300) must vote and 2/3rds of them (132) saying yes approves it.

It is not saying that regardless of how many vote, 2/3rds of those voting can approve it. Like only 30 voted but 21 said yes....give me a break,

This is often where the confusion arises and one or two words can change things real fast.

One has to be clear about the amount of votes needed to be cast and how many of those cast are needed to approve.

I got off on the number of votes needed but I would say our docs are clear (as in vague enough) that the BOD can pretty well spend money on what they desire to spend money on.

Hope this helps.

JeanB8 (Arizona)
Posts: 5
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Wow, John, your CCRs are pretty vague. It is interesting how different the verbiage is from HOA to HOA. I've talked to some of my neighboring HOAs; some are very specific, others basically give the BOD unrestricted power. Melissa, good points. I try to look at it from the homeowner standpoint too (since I'm a homeowner first and foremost). How happy would I be if monies were spent outside the HOA without homeowners' input? Loved the analogy about the red roads; so true!
CarolynB6 (Washington)
Posts: 6
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Okay, I need a little more clarification. Our HOA started imposing a fee on any property sold in our community specifically for the purpose of building a new community building. Then, when our sales fell, they diverted the funds collected as a "gift" to our Water Board. Is this legal? If funds are collected for a specific use, don't they either have to be banked and used for that specific purpose or, if the purpose is dropped, returned to the person who paid them? Thanks.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 4,216
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My CC&Rs appear to be the most restrictive of those posted so far:

"The annual assessments shall be used for the maintenance, operation and repair of the Common Elements which the Association owns or has a financial obligation to maintain - including all costs of labor, materials, traffic controls, signs, electricity and other utilities, security, supervision and management costs, lighting, insurance, taxes, if any, and such fixtures and personal property as are necessary or appropriate for their enjoyment and operation, and reasonable reserves for their replacement."

In mine, there does not appear to be any justification for the types of donations discussed here. On the other hand, as Larry states, it's a matter of proportionality.

In the case of the free use of the library, let's say you met 4x per year for 8 years and it would have cost you $50 per rental if you met somewhere else - That's $1,600 that you have saved for the HOs. And if you preserve that free meeting space into the future with a $500 donation, it makes good business sense. If the HOs object, let them know that it will cost $200 per year every year for meeting rooms. If you meet 12x per year, the cost saved is $600 per year.

To me, the important thing is to disclose what you are doing and provide a financial justification if you can. Even with my narrowly defined CC&Rs, I think we could find justification for donating to the library under the circumstances described.

What has not been revealed is the size of the donation for the outside park. So it is difficult to determine the significance.

I really like what ElaineCA has to say. An argument can be made that spending money to enhance the adjacent property enhances the value of your own property (general appearance, safety, lighting, etc.) Here again, I focus on financial justifications because they make the best defense to a legal challenge on "principle." Although some have mentioned that they are aware of cases where HOAs lost, I seriously doubt that those were for the moderate expenditures probably involved here.

If on the other hand, you are concerned about the technicalities, you could ask the owners of the park to grant you an easement that will be recorded and you could pay for the easement with the amount you were going to donate. It's a technical fix that would probably work for any CC&Rs, but it probably involves expenses (lawyer drafting, filing fees) that aren't warranted for the amount of the donation.

So as always, it gets down to dollar amount, proportion of budget, and value received.

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
RayC4 (Virginia)
Posts: 173
Posted:
I'm not an attorney but I agree with your interpretation. Diverting those funds sounds improper and probably illegal. But your description of what happened sounds even more bizarre to me: what authorization was used to make the decision to "start imposing a fee" for a community purpose? Even if the community building idea flew, wouldn't you wind up with some (newer) owners subsidizing a common element for others who did not pay in? I think that's worse than the funds 'diversion' issue.
NpS (Pennsylvania)
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Posted By CarolynB6 on 12/11/2014 11:42 AM
Okay, I need a little more clarification. Our HOA started imposing a fee on any property sold in our community specifically for the purpose of building a new community building. Then, when our sales fell, they diverted the funds collected as a "gift" to our Water Board. Is this legal? If funds are collected for a specific use, don't they either have to be banked and used for that specific purpose or, if the purpose is dropped, returned to the person who paid them? Thanks.

Who is the Water Board and what do they do?
How much had been collected?
How much was gifted?

Sikubali jukumu. Read all posts at your own risk.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Carolyn,

Even though your issue is similar, it's different enough that it would probably be best to start a new topic vs. reactivating an old thread. As you can see, some members are replying to a year old post vs. addressing the issue you raised in your post.

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