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BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
Do any of you live in a mixture of condominium independent living and assisted living and if so how does it work?

We are a senior condominium adjacent to a care center in NE. At one time the administrator of the care center mentioned buying some of our units and using them as assisted living. I thought this idea and been laid to rest.

I talked to our President this morning about some accounting items and the idea of assisted living units was mentioned. (We are not having a hard time paying bill, althought it does get tight at times)

Our President is concerned that so many of our residents need assistance and are moving to assisted living facilities. I told her we should not have assited living mixed with our condominium units.

I quess she read where a senior facility nearby is having trouble paying bills and the President is concerned about "losing her investment"

I am thinking evn if some our our units were assited living units, we could not collect any fees because they would not be condominium units.

ALso when this was first mentioned our VP did some research and found that if under a certain number of units (I think it was 10 are assisted living, the state does not regulate the facitlity.)

PaulT6 (California)
Posts: 409
Posted:
Sounds like it might be a very complex situation, possibly mixing residential and business activities together, if I am understanding you correctly. There may be a whole lot of municipal code restrictioons that could apply? A consultation with an attorney may be wise before actually doing anything.

Paul T
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
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Posted By PaulT6 on 02/09/2013 3:42 PM
Sounds like it might be a very complex situation, possibly mixing residential and business activities together, if I am understanding you correctly. There may be a whole lot of municipal code restrictioons that could apply? A consultation with an attorney may be wise before actually doing anything.

Paul T

I don't think the rest of the Board members are for this idea. I know I am 110% against it. She has never mentioned it at a Board meeting. She just emailed the administrator of the care center with copies to Board members and talked to ma about it this morning. I know it would bea very complex situation and if it ever did happen I would consider moving if I were financially able to move, but with a mortgage it is not easy to pull up roots.
EdmundS1 (North Carolina)
Posts: 45
Posted:
A number of communities have been set up that offer "one stop shopping" for us "older" people. They usually have a "buy-in" fee up front and higher "rent", or whatever it is called in exchange for the ability to move from "independent living" to "assisted living" to "nursing care" to "hospice".

Yes, you do need a detailed analysis but I would not close my mind on the idea.

Could residents receive assistance in their current units? Then they don't have to move.

Would the HOA receive a fee for units converted for new "assisted" residents?

Does "Medicare" payments play into this?

How does "Obamacare" play into this?

Given the above, is it "premature" to do anything until the "smoke clears"...but the idea that current residents can receive assisted living service where there at is attractive....

Ed
BonnieG1 (Nebraska)
Posts: 1,186
Posted:
Edmund, thanks for our reply. You have given me some tings to think about.
Currently we can receive nursing care from the nurses at the care center. If just have to prearrange it and there is a fee schedule for such care. What the nurses could not do is administer medicine. But they could probably help with baths etc.

Also in NE the ENOA provids senior companions free of charge to the client. The senior companions can help with light house work, grocery shopping, just talking etc.

I volunteer thorough Eastern Nebraska Offie on Aging as a foster grandparent and the senior companion program is part of the same program.

LauraR5 (Tennessee)
Posts: 220
Posted:
Continuing Care senior living communities can be quite lucrative and can be very attractive to folks looking for that type of lifestyle. However, there are tons of rules and regulations. If you had a health & rehab center that was already on board, that might make it a little better.

If you are already a senior community, it would be a nice perk to your residents, but I'm not sure how you'd retrofit existing arrangements.

Don't rule it out, but don't dive in without doing the research either. Lots of folks out there just looking to make money on the elderly too.
LauraR5 (Tennessee)
Posts: 220
Posted:
Continuing Care senior living communities can be quite lucrative and can be very attractive to folks looking for that type of lifestyle. However, there are tons of rules and regulations. If you had a health & rehab center that was already on board, that might make it a little better.

If you are already a senior community, it would be a nice perk to your residents, but I'm not sure how you'd retrofit existing arrangements.

Don't rule it out, but don't dive in without doing the research either. Lots of folks out there just looking to make money on the elderly too.
ElaineS2 (California)
Posts: 47
Posted:
I am no expert. But I am writing this from a large senior community so I have a little experience to share. You have a lot of research to do , as others have wisely mentioned. I think that a full-blown assisted living center sounds daunting. But there are some reasonable perks your community could arrange which would serve to increase your property values. I'm thinking of soft measures such as instigating volunteer phone calls to shut-ins, or maybe coordinated transportation or recreational activities. Things as simple as a neighborhood watch or key share arrangement to prevent accidental lock-outs; whatever you think might make folks feel more comfortable and cared for. Of course if you are a small association you won't have enough active volunteers and everything will fall to the few who are already committed to helping (sounds like you might be on top of that list.) And then again you might already have thought of these things.

While our development is huge, (and so are the assessments) with lots of money and many benefits, including a semi-assisted living section--some of the most popular and helpful programs are provided by our neighborhood volunteers for free. Owners in the areas with established, "welcome wagon"-type schemes report a happier neighborhood, and the local realtors know where those sections are, and recommend them. It may not mean a lot more money for our properties when they do sell, but they never remain on the market for long (as some others do) so we know we're doing something right.

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