As Melissa said, where do I start. Sorry about the length of the reply but I'm trying to respond to all the issues you posted.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
We have restarted our HOA, it sorta dissolved many years ago,
I suspect that the Association still exists. The Corporation known as Association, Inc. may or may not have been administratively dissolved by the State.
If you are restarting the Association, you should check into the corporate status.
A Corporation is considered a legal entity and as such, it provides some benefits to the Association and it's members.
The status can be verified by going to
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
I have been reading the laws, but they are a bit confusing.
Yes they can be. Here is a link to an earlier thread on this form that may be of assistance:
Subject: How to read a statute (law) Here are links to applicable WV statutes:
WV Uniform Common Interest Ownership Act West Virginia Nonprofit Corporation Act applicable if you are incorporated.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
The CC&R's never really have been enforced since the development was started,. . . There are many homes that are in violation of the CC&R's,
My Association had a similar problem in that our Architectural Committee (the approving authority) had, over the years, given verbal approvals/disapprovals and failed to keep all written approvals. The records were in a mess, so we were unable to identify things that were or were not approved. This is what we did:
1) Organize the Architectural records/files
2) Searched past minutes for approvals/disapprovals that may have been documented there but not in the files.
3) Summarized those approvals/disapprovals (see attached)
4) Inspected the properties (lots) and identified all likely exterior changes
5) Compared an individual Lot's exterior changes to the summary sheet.
6) For those items without approvals on file but would likely have been approved, the committee wrote the following letter (note we included a picture of the item as this helped to show exactly what we were talking about):
"We are writing this letter to request copies of any documentation you may have concerning [this item].
This committee can easily see where a waiver would have been granted. Expecting that a waiver was granted, this committee is requesting the above information, if available, so your record may be updated. If information is not available, please let us know so we may generate a memorandum to cover this expected waiver.
This Committee is not asking that you remove the object. We are only trying to properly document it, which should allay any concerns of future Architectural Committees."
If the response was that there was no documentation, we would then create a simple memo:
"This letter is to document approval for [item]
The Architectural Committee, as of this date, hereby acknowledges that all the above items are recognized as, or considered to have been, previously approved.
7) For those items without approvals on file and would likely have not been approved, the committee wrote the following letter (note we included a picture of the item as this helped to show exactly what we were talking about):
"An inspection of your property has identified the following item/s that our files do not indicate they were approved, as required by section xx of the Declaration of Covenants. Therefore, we are requesting copies of any documentation you may have concerning [this item]."
Note: We didn't require removal with this letter as, depending on the item, it could be more problematic than required and a wavier may be a better approach.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
and we found out that the group that was running it before had approved items that are against our CC&R's
For these items, we sent the following memo (again we included pictures):
Dear Homeowner,
In regards to the following item/s:
Example โ Storm Door
The Architectural Committee, as of this date, hereby acknowledges that all the above items are recognized as, or considered to have been, previously approved but are not in compliance with the covenants or current guidelines.
Since the above items have been previously approved, and providing they are properly maintained, they do not need to be replaced in order to comply with the current guidelines. However, at such time that the item is replaced it may not be replaced with a similar style.
Any replacement must meet the guidelines in use at the time and receive approval from the Architectural Committee.
If any of the above items are still on the home when a disclosure package is requested, a similar statement will be made within the disclosure package.
This Committee is making this statement based on the guidance from, and with the approval of, the Board of Directors.
This process allowed us to document the issue and move forward doing things the correct way.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
I am reading in the law, that a home owner can sue the HOA here in West Virginia for not enforcing our CC&R's. Not to mention that state law says CC&R's that have not been enforced in a "unspecified" amount of time may be found to be unenforceable by the court.
By going through the above documentation, you would likely be protecting the Association from a bad judgement as you would now be in compliance with ยง36B-1-112. Obligation of good faith. That is, the Association is now making a good faith effort to enforce.
I was unable to locate the section of statute that specified the a lack of enforcement may be cause that section to be unenforceable. However, I wouldn't worry about it too much. This will only apply if a member challenges an enforcement action in a court of law and the court rules that it's unenforceable.
If there is support to reactivate the Association and start enforcing the covenants, providing you initially work on documenting vs. punishment, this may not be an issue to worry about.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
This brings me to another problem, our CC&R's are almost 30 years old, some of them violate Federal and other local laws.
Yep, this happens. When a covenant is in conflict with a Federal/State law or County code/city ordinance, that specific section that is in conflict is not enforceable. As an example, Satellite dishes. Many covenants have language that prohibit these. Federal regulations trump that covenant.
A typical order of precedence is:
Federal Law
Federal Regulations
State Law
State Regulations
County Codes
City Ordinances
Declaration of Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions (CC&Rs)
Articles of Incorporation
Bylaws
Resolutions (additional rules/regulations/policies adopted by the board)
Note: often state law will defer authority to the Associations governing documents by using phrases like "if the Articles or Bylaws allow" or "if the Declaration is silent then". Therefore, you need to fully read the State laws to see if they do or do not fully apply.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
We have one home owner that is violation of one of the CC&R's but part of the rule includes items that are in clear violation of Federal law. Don"t know what if anything we can do about this.
Simple, The Association has no authority to enforce Federal, State, County or City violations. Therefore, if you see one, contact the appropriate Federal/State/etc. authority and let them deal with that violation. This way, it may even correct the Covenant violation and the Association didn't have to do anything but make a phone call.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
We have no money, and the money we do have has to go to maintain the roads which is the only common area. . . . I just hope we can get some to pay their dues so we can fix the road, which is only 100.00 a year, and BTW we cant raise the dues that is in the CC&R's.
Not having access to the language in your CC&Rs, it's difficult to provide a good response. Perhaps if you could cite that section of the covenants about assessments a better answer can be provided. However, this is what I can provide to you:
Depending on the language in the governing documents and the requirement of WV law to carry specific insurance on the common elements (see ยง36B-3-113. Insurance), you may have zero choice but to raise assessments. At $100 per year and only 36 lots, I don't see how $3,600 a year is enough to properly maintain the road, pay insurance and other administrative costs of the Association. The Association may need to seek a court order to declare that section of covenants limiting assessments to only $100/yr unenforceable.
As far as getting people to pay, you may need to become tough and (at the very least) file liens.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
We have sent out letters trying to get the homeowners to comply to the CC&R's they just ignore us.
I'd suggest getting the Association files, corporate status, etc. squared away first. Then worry about enforcement issues. Worst case, you may have to make an example. Just be sure to apply enforcement of any violations equally.
You can't go after one person for a shed unless you go after everyone for sheds. If you do, you run the risk of a court ruling it selective enforcement.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
One homeowner even added a trailer which is a violation,
This might need to be the Associations example that they mean business.
Of course, the members may end up taking sides in the issue and you could be in the minority for doing the right thing. However, every Board member takes that risk and any associated consequences.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
I believe the best thing to do is rewrite the CC&R's to maybe county ordinances, if we can get the votes to approve that, dont think this will be a problem. This way we can avoid any attorney fee's.
As Melissa pointed out, making the draft is one thing. However, you will still need an attorney to make sure that the language is in compliance with State laws and standard legal practices. Therefore, it should be reviewed by an attorney before being voted on.
Prior to the legal review, if this is the path you desire, you should form a committee and allow any member who desires to serve on it. Then have the committee make the draft. The more people who are involved in the process the better the chances are of having the amendments pass.
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Posted By TomA5 on 01/24/2013 5:25 PM
the more I read the more I find we are kinda in a bad spot. Small development, 36 homes, HOA run by home owners "US". Any thoughts??
If the membership is agreeable to it, I think your attorney had the better idea. Abolish the deed restrictions, put a road maintenance agreement in place of them and have an Association oversee the maintenance of the road - period.
Hope this helps and again I'm sorry for the length,
Tim