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FrankG1 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
My HOA has voted on and approved guidelines to limit major contruction activity. In particular we limit the time of the year that these activities may take place. We are now being challenged by one homeowner who basically has ignored the regulations. Below is the actual terminology from our guidelines. Has anyone come across a situation such as this???

Construction Activity

1. In season is defined as November 1 through April 30.

2. Major outside Construction and or tear downs shall only be authorized from May 1 through October 30.

Note 1: The only exception to this is to provide for required construction and or demolition in season in the event of an act of God or some other unplanned failure requiring said work. In this event the PIHOA board of directors may give written approval required to carry on the work that is found to be necessary and the work hours may be extended. This extension is only granted for unplanned events and does not give Contractors the authority to extend their hours or days for normal construction activity.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
FrankG1:
Don't understand your 'construction activity' points 1 & 2.
In season is Nov. 1-Apr.30; 'out of season'??? & major outside construction is authorized from May 1-Oct. 30. Basically, is this stating the entire year is OK for construction activity? For unplanned demolition, surely if a unit owner requested work to be done the Board would grant it, right?

We have no specified time period when owners cannot work on construction; obviously the warmer months are better for outside ground breaking, etc.
We are, however, preparing a new ARC form so that when an 'arch. approval' is received it must be acted upon and completed within a certain time period. (months)
PaulM
LindaC3 (Florida)
Posts: 526
Posted:
FrankG1---- What State to do you live in ??? This is the most absurd rule I think I have ever seen ?? An HOA DICTATING construction time frames !!!!!!! LindaC
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Frank,
Yes,I have come across rules that are so poorly written, ambiguous, and unreasonable that they are meaningless. What are they doing which has ignored this regulation. Your Board better rethink their position because they should lose at any reasonable Hearing.
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Frank:

Time to punt on this one. I don't know how can reasonably expect to limit construction to certain times of the year. Furthermore, there are times when you can get work cheaper because it is a down time for certain workers. Fires or a car through your living room or an explosion are not acts of God, but would they be determined to be unplanned events? What if an estranged spouse burned down his exspouse's home, that was a planned act, would they have to wait until open season to start rebuilding?

What is the purpose of limiting construction to certain times of the year? I can't seem to see any logic behind that. Seriously, before you lose a lot of your homeowner's money in court, punt, and live to fight another day.
HaroldS (Arizona)
Posts: 906
Posted:
"My HOA voted..." Does that mean the board or the actual members in the correct percentage approved this? If the board did this, I doubt they have the authority to do so. If the members approved this, it needs to be visited again and spelled out more clearly.
What are they trying to accomplish? No noise, traffic, dust, etc during the "season?" I think this fails the "reasonable" rule the courts are using today. Harold
FrankG1 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
LindaC3 thanks for your response. I am in Florida. The 21 homeowners 18 of which are snowbirds and are not here out of season approved this regulation so that they would not be disturbed in season. It applies only to major construction as as tear downs and rebuilds.
FrankG1 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
PaulM thanks first for your response. The 21 homeowners 18 of which are snowbirds and are not here out of season approved this regulation so that they would not be disturbed in season. It applies only to major construction such as tear downs and rebuilds. Unplanned construction due to any cause out of the homeowners control would be granted by the board of course. We also have a 9 month window for total completion of a project. This also though has never been enforced.
FrankG1 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
RogerB first thanks for replying. Let me try to clarify this situation. There are 21 homeowners 18 of which are snowbirds and are not here out of season. They unanimously approved this regulation so that they would not be disturbed in season. It applies only to major construction such as tear downs and rebuilds. Any acy of God or major catastrophy out of the homeowners control would of course be given a waiver by the board.
FrankG1 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
BradP first thanks for your response. Let me try and clarify this. There are 21 homeowners 18 of which are snowbirds and are not here out of season. they unanimously approved this regulation so that they would not be disturbed in season. It applies only to major construction as as tear downs and rebuilds. Any act God or otherwise that required major construction and was out of the homeowners control would of course receive a waiver from the Board.
FrankG1 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
HaroldS first thanks for replying. Let me try to clarify this situation. There are 21 homeowners 18 of which are snowbirds and are not here out of season. They unanimously approved this regulation so that they would not be disturbed in season. It applies only to major construction such as tear downs and rebuilds. Any act of God or major catastrophy out of the homeowners control would of course be given a waiver by the board.
JM2 (Oregon)
Posts: 439
Posted:
Hi Frank:

The closest I have seen to anything like this is a restrction from the City of Portland (Oregon) regarding the time for digging for foundations (none from November 1 to I forgot exactly when) to keep from having problems with erosion and/or mudslides, etc.

While the rule makes sense in light of the fact that most people aren't there when construction may happen, the rule could be written much more clearly. Also, I'm not sure that it's totally reasonable to expect the construction to be completed within 6 months; talking to some local builders may clarify how long it would reasonably take to build in your area.

J. Patrick Moore, CMCA
HaroldS (Arizona)
Posts: 906
Posted:
Well I guess 18 out of 21 is enough to enact anything. But I'm curious - if construction/demolition can only be accomplished while they are not there, and if the construction/ demolition is being done on their property, who is overseeing the work? Seems like I would want to be around while something major like that was happening to my property. Harold
FrankG1 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
They have a general contractor and they are here occasionally but of course have to stay in a hotel or with friends.
FrankG1 (Florida)
Posts: 8
Posted:
The whole job does not have to be done in 6 months, only the outside of the structure so that all heavy equipment work is completed. Inside work of any kind and outside painting, trim work etc. can go on 12 months a year. A six month window to complete the outside structure is quite doable in our area of Florida. In fact the whole community which has 1200 doors as opposed to our 21 has an overall rule that says the complete structure inside and out must be completed 9 months from the start date.

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