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NicoleW4 (Georgia)
Posts: 41
Posted:
Our HOA recently took 2 home owners to court for violations of the CC&R, they each had a structure that was not approved.

The first suit was settled by allowing the structure to remain once it was painted to match the house. This structure was in clear violation of the covenants because it was located in front of the fence but the board's issue was the structure itself. The wanted it removed from the property.

The covenants do not have any provisions to levy fines or to place liens except for failure to pay HOA dues.

The second suit was for a playhouse. What they are terming a structure. The ARC's policy is that play structures are not Covenant Enforced(and there are many that had existed when this one was put in and new ones added since which have had no approval or conflict).

Not all board members agree but a few who hold the power are trying to continue the second suit. Did the board not already set precendent by allowing the first structure to remain when settling the first suit? The details of the suit where sealed making it hard to know what the exact terms were but it is clear that the structure still exists and the lawsuit is settled.

Does the second suit have a chance when it is a playhouse with monkey bars and a slide and the board clearly states that they do not enforce play structures. There are many such examples that exist (stand alone playhouses, and swingsets, and combo structures)and yet they are only trying to bring action on one homeowner because a neighbor complained. And so they feel they must take action. Many homeowners would like to see this suit dropped to avoid expenses that may not be recouped.

Has the HOA lost the right to scrutinize one play structure vs another when they do not generally take actions on play structures?

Did they set themselves up to fail by allowing the first suit to be settled and that stucture still remaining?

Are there any precents in the courts? This HOA is in GA.

What should be used to reason with the ACC?
PaulT6 (California)
Posts: 409
Posted:
Looks like you are dealing with two separate issues , one covered and one not covered by your Governing Documents. It appears the first one is history. The play house may fall into the "unsightly", or "an unreasonable annoyance to neighbors" category. Our Covenants Rules prohibit both of those, however yours may vary. If you haven't been regulating play structures it may be difficult to start now? It is difficult, but not impossible, to put the toothpaste back into the tube.

Paul T
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Nicole

We need more info on the "structures" especially about the one in front of the house that just needed "painting".

Me thinks you are trying to lump apples and oranges together.

I could be wrong, and it will be neither the first nor last time.
LarryB13 (Arizona)
Posts: 4,099
Posted:
Like others here, I see no connection between the two lawsuits.

The first one is a real mess. Typically, any member of the association plus the association itself my enforce the covenants. The association usually has no authority to permit something prohibited by the declaration. The settlement between the homeowner and the association is not binding on any other homeowners and there is nothing to prevent the OP or some other owner from filing a suit against the offending party.

The second lawsuit -- the one against the play structure -- is questionable at best. If the ARC and BOD have previously held the postion that these are not really stuctures it is hard to justify allowing many but suing over one. If the board is pursuing a lawsuit against the wishes of the owners then the best remedy would be for the owners to organize a recall election of the board.

Very few declarations require the association to enforce the letter of the covenants, giving the board plenty of discretion as to which battles to fight and which to turn a blind eye towards.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Nicole,

You might want to check your documents carefully. There may be no such thing as "precedent."

Many governing documents (covenants), like many contracts, often contain a clause that states something like the failure of one party to enforce a provision of the covenant (contract) against another party should not be construed to mean that the party has waived its right to enforce that provision against the same, or another, party in the future. In other words, failure to enforce a provision does not establish a precedent.
NicoleW4 (Georgia)
Posts: 41
Posted:
The only provision in the Covenants is:

ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL
Construction; Review and Approval. No building, outbuilding, storage shed, pool house, kennel, tree house, pen, gazebo, fence, wall, dock, or other structure, except those provided by the Declarant, shall be commenced, erected or maintained upon the Properties, nor shall any exterior addition to, change in or alteration of any of said structures be made until complete final plans have been submitted to and approved by the Association's Board of Directors or by an architectural control committee composed of three or more persons appointed by said Board as to harmony of exterior design and general quality with the existing standards of the neighborhood and as to location in relation to surrounding structures and topography. In the event said Board or its designated committee fails to approve or disapprove such design and location within 30 days after said plans and specifications shall have been submitted to it, approval will not be required and this Section will be deemed to have been fully complied with.

There are no specific guidelines posted or distributed. If asked what is needed to allow approval of a outbuilding, storage shed, tree house, or other structure the board will not state the specific things needed to get approval. Only to submit plans and see if approved. What is allowed is visably not the same for all owners.

The board stays silent on any items it finds ok (does not require plans for every change/ structure at every house)and then goes after items it arbitrarily does not find ok(asks for plans and then denies approval).

NicoleW4 (Georgia)
Posts: 41
Posted:
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Posted By PaulT6 on 12/06/2012 2:09 PM
The play house may fall into the "unsightly", or "an unreasonable annoyance to neighbors" category.

Paul T

There is no such clause or guideline in our Covenants. And the play house is not visible from the road as it is behind a 6 foot fence on a several acre lot.

Is there a statute that says any structure that is not seen from the road is not subject to covenants?

NicoleW4 (Georgia)
Posts: 41
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Posted By BruceF1 on 12/07/2012 3:44 AM
Nicole,

You might want to check your documents carefully. There may be no such thing as "precedent."

Many governing documents (covenants), like many contracts, often contain a clause that states something like the failure of one party to enforce a provision of the covenant (contract) against another party should not be construed to mean that the party has waived its right to enforce that provision against the same, or another, party in the future. In other words, failure to enforce a provision does not establish a precedent.

Thanks but don't the courts generally find that once a section of the covenant has been abandoned it no longer has the right to enforce that issue. And by allowing many structures to remain and taking action against one instance be selective enforcement?
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I am of the opinion your HOA does NOT have a case and is pursuing lawsuits unnecessarily. It's not for what you may be thinking. The HOA has it's own powers to remove an item without going to court. Going to court is an illustration your HOA doesn't fully understand what it is doing. CC&R violations enforcement is done in-house with certain legal options.

A HOA typically (Won't say all) has the power to remove a violation and send the owner the bill for it. IF the owner does not pay that bill, then the HOA can LIEN for it. That is the process the HOA has the power to do. It's debateable amongst many here who insist on "Trespassing laws". However, if the violation is on COMMON property then those laws may not apply. That is because the HOA owns the property and can maintain it's own property the way it feels fit. Removing items or enforcing rules of maintenance/appearances is allowed.

Now having said the HOA can remove an item and send the owner the bill does show the HOA incurred financial damages. It is those financial damages that a HOA could indeed pursue in court if they don't do a lien. Which is why your HOA may not be pursuing this lawsuit correctly. The court needs to see damages and make one whole. The HOA hasn't paid anyone money to remove the item so they are not out of money except for the legal mess. Which they brought upon themselves and most likely won't count as damages by the court. The HOA should be suing for the right to enter the property and remove the violation. They need to show an estimate of the cost for removal of the item if they go in and are able to remove. That then will be the reward of the court. If that is not paid then a lien can be pursued for it.

I don't think the owner is in violation and the HOA should have responded that it was okay. Instead of a knee jerk reaction that because someone complains it should be removed and sued for it. The HOA can stand behind it's rules just as much. The HOA should have written a letter showing in the rules the playground equipment is NOT in violation and is okay to have installed to the person who complained. That is what I would have done.

Former HOA President
NicoleW4 (Georgia)
Posts: 41
Posted:
Thank you for your response. I have read your take on remove the violation and then lien. Our covents are old, late 70's. They do not have any provision to fine, to remove violation, or to place a lien except for unpaid dues, or to do anything other than ask the court to remove the play house. They started out with this request a few years ago and then abandoned it. Brought suit to have the play house removed by the court, had a court date, and dropped the court date.

Georgia has a 2 year statute of limilations. The suit was brought within the 2 years ( a court date set and dropped) but has dragged out with very little actual action for more than 3 years. Does sending a letter every 6 months keep the statute of limitaions from expiring?

This is only the second suit the board has ever brought and the issue is it refuses to acknowledge the playhouse as a playhouse. It called it a shed in the original lawsuit. (the first suit, another homeowner, had the same wording about a shed and then settled with the shed being painted to match the house). The owners bought the 80 sq ft playhouse with windows and front porch for there child but the ACC will not acknowledge is it a playhouse and has not stated the actual violation or how to correct it. The homeowner repeatedly asked what the violation was and what specific remeady was needed and the ACC has still never stated what the violation is or how the specifically correct it. The rules for approval are unknown or at the very least unclear and variable. The ACC refused the homeowners request to discuss with the BOD which are part of the Enforcement Guidelines and immediately brought the suit.

Is there a legal definition for a playhouse vs a shed? I have read "windows" make the difference is some neighborhoods. Let me note that I do know that the playhouse is in fact a playhouse. My kids play there.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
The board can exceed the reach of the ACC. I would recommend going to a BOD meeting and addressing the issue as it is their right. The BOD has the power to overturn. What money are they even using for the lawsuit? The BOD would have to approve this expenditure. Which comes from the owner's dues.

A play house can be subjective. Some sheds do have windows in them. At this point, I would hope the owner of it has decided to countersue. That would be their best option at this point if they continue to pursue this case. It is cheaper for them to counter sue and doesn't necessarily need an attorney to do so. They can counter sue for any expenses they may have incurred legal, maintenance, or other just to have something to countersue for. This would end the whole thing right there once it is finished in court. I'd put the ball in the owner of the shed's hands now and finish this off.

Former HOA President
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
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Posted By NicoleW4 on 12/07/2012 8:13 AM Thanks but don't the courts generally find that once a section of the covenant has been abandoned it no longer has the right to enforce that issue. And by allowing many structures to remain and taking action against one instance be selective enforcement?

Usually no, most CC&R's have something in them called a waiver clause, here's ours:
No covenants, restrictions, conditions, obligations or provisions contained in this Declaration shall be deemed to have been abrogated or waived by reason of any failure to enforce the same, irrespective of the number of violations or breaches which may occur.


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GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
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It sounds more to me that the current Board is attempting to enforce the CC&R's which past Boards or ACC have ignored. By the section you posted a playhouse is indeed a building and by the inclusion of tree house it shows that the section was not designed to exempt structures meant for children.

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TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By NicoleW4 on 12/07/2012 8:13 AM

Thanks but don't the courts generally find that once a section of the covenant has been abandoned it no longer has the right to enforce that issue. And by allowing many structures to remain and taking action against one instance be selective enforcement?

Actually using the defense of selective enforcement (others have similar structures but the Board is only enforcing the covenant on you) can be a good argument. However, after hearing such an argument, the court may do one of the following:

1) Agree that it is selective enforcement and as such, determine you are not in violation of the covenants (what you want).

2) Agree that it's selective enforcement and instruct the Board that they may not pursue the issue with you unless they prove to the court that they are enforcing it on everyone (then the Board needs to decide to go after everyone or no-one). It doesn't allow your structure as the Board could still go after everyone and you're hoping that they don't want to.

3) Agree that it's selective enforcement but, similar to traffic tickets, that doesn't mitigate the fact that you are in violation and must remove the structure (what the Board is hoping for).

4) Some other ruling I can't think of.

BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
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Posted By NicoleW4 on 12/07/2012 8:13 AM
Thanks but don't the courts generally find that once a section of the covenant has been abandoned it no longer has the right to enforce that issue. And by allowing many structures to remain and taking action against one instance be selective enforcement?

Nicole,

Not necessarily. If you've heard this from someone it is most likely opinion and not fact. Courts set precedence, Homeowners Associations do not. You would need to cite actual court decisions where it was determined that an association has abandoned a covenant provision because it has not enforced it in the past.

As Glen pointed out, that's why the "waiver" clause is in the covenants (and contracts). By virtue of that clause, all parties agree that other provisions are not considered "abandoned" simply because they haven't been enforced in the past. In other words, such an argument would not likely hold up in court.
PaulT6 (California)
Posts: 409
Posted:
Nicole,

You said: "or other structure"

I can only speak from my own experience. Our Architectural Standards Rules state that anything over 3 feet tall is a structure and requires approval. It appear your definition of "other structures" gives you a lot of leeway.

A concern I would have is that your Board appears to be very inconsistent in their actions. I would think that would be very hard to defend.

Paul T
NicoleW4 (Georgia)
Posts: 41
Posted:
The homeowner has been shut-out of speaking at the Board meeting. They were told that they could attend any meeting which is difficult to find (at unspeficied place at unspecified time) but that they would not be able to discuss their specific ACC issue.
NicoleW4 (Georgia)
Posts: 41
Posted:
The ACC and Board have been the same guys on and off for 20+ years. One guy rolls off for a year or two and then back on. New homeowner who want o join the board almost never succeed. If they do get on they are only on a year or 2 and do not have enough influence to change the few who run the show.
NicoleW4 (Georgia)
Posts: 41
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Posted By PaulT6 on 12/07/2012 9:39 AM
Nicole,

A concern I would have is that your Board appears to be very inconsistent in their actions. I would think that would be very hard to defend.

Paul T

Yes and at what cost.
NicoleW4 (Georgia)
Posts: 41
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 12/07/2012 8:56 AM
The board can exceed the reach of the ACC. I would recommend going to a BOD meeting and addressing the issue as it is their right. The BOD has the power to overturn. What money are they even using for the lawsuit? The BOD would have to approve this expenditure. Which comes from the owner's dues.

A play house can be subjective. Some sheds do have windows in them. At this point, I would hope the owner of it has decided to countersue. That would be their best option at this point if they continue to pursue this case. It is cheaper for them to counter sue and doesn't necessarily need an attorney to do so. They can counter sue for any expenses they may have incurred legal, maintenance, or other just to have something to countersue for. This would end the whole thing right there once it is finished in court. I'd put the ball in the owner of the shed's hands now and finish this off.

The homeowner did retain a lawyer when the suit was filed (this is why the request to remove the playhouse was dropped. Their lawyer got the HOA's lawyer to remove the court date stating the court would not find for the HOA and make the owners remove it without a hearing) and so the suit slowly marched on.

Does anyone have any experience winning or losing such a fight?
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Sometimes hiring your own lawyer is the best option, especially if the person threatening you with a lawsuit is on shaky ground, even if it is a another lawyer. Lawyers first attempt to win their objectives for their clients through threats and intimidation (legal bullying). I've always believed this and my beliefs were confirmed by an attorney friend of mine. Sometimes all it takes is a letter by your own lawyer (it usually will cost a few hundred dollars) to make the problem go away. Personal experience. You need to hire a lawyer who specializes in the area of law that applies to your situation. If your case is not winnable, a good lawyer will so advise you during initial consultation.
FredO (California)
Posts: 198
Posted:
One thing to keep in mind - while we all agreed to come buy into and live in CID's and abide by the CC&R's we did not give up our civil rights.
Sure, we gave up some things like painting a house a certain color or having landscaping or parking a car, truck, trailer, boat or RV we did not give up our civil rights.

My HOA has the same boiler plate language concerning the ARC guidelines. It says because they allowed "x" for one member they do not have to allow "x" for another. Sure there may be reasons for this that may sound logical but then the 14th Amendment comes into play. Equal protection under the law (even if that law is HOA documents).

It has been proven many times that if the BoD or ARC grants a variance then it surely is a precedent for all. They will have a hard time not allowing something for other members than they allowed for one. I read on (either this website or another) that granting variances is a very slippery slope because if you give one variance, you will be faced with giving others.

the author of the site (a lawyer I think) said that HOA's should never grant ARC variances, ever! Where I live we have 220 members (homes) and were incorporated and founded in 1982. Now, after 30 years there have been over 300 variances issued for all manner of things. Some members of our HOA now say that the sheer number of these have watered down the ARC guidelines so much that we ought to just throw them away and resort to the local building codes. There is no new construction, all lots are over 20 years old.

I tend to agree with that sentiment in that most people work hard to keep their properties well maintained. But what we have seen, over time, is that the members of the ARC committee have pushed for their personal taste to force people to do what they want. For example, windows can be either plain or gridded. For nearly 10 years the ARC committee has only allowed or approved gridded windows when people were replacing old double paned windows (the cheap ones the developers installed).

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