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JohnH38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 100
Posted:
At a board meeting two months ago 3 out of 5 directors voted to pump water from a lake for irrigation purposes.

It is specifically forbidden by our covenants. In their defense, the developer had pumped water from another pond to irrigate newly planted parkway trees 5 years ago, the pump is still there to prove it!

Is it reasonable to ask the 3 directors to reimburse the $6K cost? They obviously didn't exercise DD ... and the BYLAWS state that the association is not financially responsible for "reckless disregard" of the covenants by a director.

At a subsequent meeting 4 of the 5 voted to keep the pump turned off, which could be construed as an admission of guilt (guilty of an oversight!).

Any suggestion is appreciated.

JohnH38
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,060
Posted:
John,

I'm confused. It cost 6K to pump water from the lake or it cost 6K to install an irrigation system?

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Tim this subject has been beaten to death. This is the second time posting the same question by this person. The fact is there was a pump installed into a pond approved by the board for irrigation purposes. The Convenants say this wasn't supposed to happen. However, after reading the previous posting it seems that it's unclear in the rules if the rule is referencing individual homes can't do it or the whole of the HOA.

In the end, the money is spent and the owners are NOT going to get their money back. You sue your HOA you sue yourself and your neighbors. It doesn't make much sense to demand to be reimbursed spilled milk just on principle.

The HOA can modify the rules/convenants to allow for the HOA as a whole to install a pump if they want to. That would be the next step one should take if it were my HOA.

Former HOA President
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,060
Posted:
Ahh. That thread:

Subject: Embellishment of community

Since it was never asked in the initial thread, I'll ask it here:

John,

Would you provide the exact language of the section of covenants about the pond?

JohnH38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 100
Posted:
JimB4

The exact wording is: ยซ No pumps shall be placed in a lake, pond or creek for the purpose of removing water for irrigation purposes. ยป

The total cost (pump, pipes, sprinkleer heads, &c.) was $6K.

To amend any article of the covenants requires a 75 % quorum of the membership.

Amending means either reversing or reinforcing ... just a matter of semantics. When it is simply reinforcing a new rule & regulation by the BOD should suffice. To reverse an article, a quorum of the members is required. JMO.

Have a nice weekend, JohnH38
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,060
Posted:
John,

Based on what you cited, I agree that the Board was in violation. However, I have a few clarifying questions:

Is that section you cited by itself or grouped with other restrictions?
Is that section you cited grouped within restrictions for members only?
Does the Declaration give authority elsewhere to the Board for using it for that purpose?

Lets take what you cited at face value and conclude that the Board did in fact make a bad decision and violated the covenants. Now what? Expecting that what you desire is to make the current board comply with the Declaration, I see the following options:

Well, you could take the Association to court to force them not to use the installed pump for irrigation purposes. However, you have indicated that it appears the Board has seen the error of their ways and have stopped using the pump for that purpose.

Per your posts, most of the money was spent on the irrigation system and not the actual pump that was placed in the lake. If the Board spends more money to turn that pump into an aeration pump (fountain type pump) and spends more money to supply water to the rest of the irrigation from another source, it appears that they would then be in compliance with that section of the Declaration.

Perhaps additional money can be spent to completely remove both irrigation systems (this one and the one installed by the developer). This action would also bring the Association into compliance with the Declaration and perhaps keep future Board from making the same mistake.

If you want the money back that was spent, I seriously doubt that this will happen. The money was spent on an improvement (an irrigation system) for the Association. Therefore it wasn't misappropriated. The Board made a bad decision to use the lake as a water source for the irrigation. However, most States have laws protecting volunteer board members from bad business decisions. Had they reviewed the governing documents, perhaps they would have found a different water source - again a bad decision.

If you want to punish the Board, start a campaign to recall them or to just not re-elect them.

If you want the membership to incur additional expenses, take them to court. This will cost you some time, money, stress and energy for the challenge. It will certainly cost the Board members some time, stress and energy. The money to defend the case would be paid by the Association and born by the membership.
You may even prevail and a judge may rule the Board should have known better. Personally, I think the time, energy, money and stress could be put to better use.

Hope this helps,

Tim
JohnH38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 100
Posted:
Tim

You are 100% correct in your assessment. We've had a severe drought the last few years, or else members wouldn't have noticed the lower water level and objected.

Thanks, JohnH38
JohnH38 (South Carolina)
Posts: 100
Posted:
Tim

You are 100% correct in your assessment. We've had a severe drought the last few years, or else members wouldn't have noticed the lower water level and objected.

Thanks, JohnH38

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