Yet another meeting...

Has anyone asked either the board members or the management company when the meeting is going to be or why it wasn't held? That is where I would start.

If they still balk at scheduling something, I'd read my governing docs to see what the other homeowners need to do to call a meeting and start working on it. And then at that meeting, decide what your next steps are.

They did make the appropriate "days notification" sort of...didn't follow either of the two specified methods of member notification listed in the bylaws, but stuffed fliers in doors and mailboxes. Can't decide if I should press this as a deal-breaker. The thought keeps going through my head that if they can't be trusted to do the simplest of things, can they truly be trusted in anything?

Sounds like someone is ready to toss their hat into the ring at the next election.

Good for you, Terry! do your best to build a support group.

Terry

I commend you for running for the BOD.

While not taking a side, I might caution you about one thing. Intent of rules versus the letter of the rules. I think you might need to loosen up some about the differences.

So now the method of contact for meeting notification is the battleground.

Sounds just rather silly to me.

So if you have monthly meeting and then an annual and you now require every owner be mailed a notice in a year's time just what does that come to? $$$$ And IMO for some resident to now involve themselves with filing complaints to the Postal Service well my suggestion find something better to do with your time. Just a wanna be junior G-Man. Don't you think the Postal Inspectors might have some drug shipments to foil? Well on second thought this HOA notification issue is a federal matter!

And of course now the threats to contact my lawyer... Please. You would pay a lawyer to adress this nonsense? Wow.

There is the letter of the law versus the meaning of the law. Our documents require Western Union notification for some matters, we have decided to take the risk and use more modern methods. Whatever notices we can e-mail well that saves money. What notices we can, here we go, HAND DELIVER that saves money. Sometimes common sense dictates change in methods. And if you wrap your life around each letter of every word then IMO you are wasting my time.

MY method lighten up and address what is important in the way of managing your property.

My guess this HOA just might have more pressing issues. What type of job is the Board doing? How long have they served? How long has the OP lived on the property? Does the OP bother to attend meetings?

My opinion much to do about nothing.

Gotta go the postal inspectors are here......................

JD1, thank you for your comments. And no, I didn't make the complaint, and I have no desire to be any level of G-man. Your observations are interesting to say the least. Not sure why it matters, but I've been a resident here since the development was new, and I attend every meeting that I'm able to do so. and I've even volunteered where needed on numerous occasions.

I hope things improve for you, so maybe you can become less of an ass.

Terry

Early on you said: Our bylaws state there are only two options for member notification of meetings; postage paid to address on file, or email/fax if permission is granted in writing by member.

Now allow me to draw a hypothetical intent that might not meet the above letter.

Several owners go around and leave notices of the meeting in each front door. Others go around and put such a notice on the windshield of every car in the neighborhood. A bulletin board is erected at the entrance(s) with a big letter sign notifying all of the meeting. A group calls and either speaks to someone or leaves a message about the meeting. The community newsletter has a banner headline about such, etc.

Forget about the two bit lawyer that makes a case of the association having the incorrect name/address on file, thus his client never received "proper notice" so the action of the BOD is not valid.

Allow me to ask some tough love questions: Could this present BOD operate in any way shape or form that you would not have issues with what they do? Has it not become personal with you?

Well, you are now in the line of fire. Enjoy it.

Over time and if you read between the lines reality can be found despite the onesided views many peoploe provide.

Amazing, when someone takes it upon themselves to file a complaint with a federal agency over HOA notices. To say that person is trying to use the Postal Service to prove their point would be far to kind. And the OP seems to find great satisfacton in that occuring. And is threatening to contact their lawyer if their honor is not restored. Be very worried...

Yes, the documents require this and we can't have the President bending any rules becuase now I am the self appointed rule enforcer for the entire property and each owner. Well I have heard that line of crap many times. "I am just doing what's right." Now the OP sugests they are concerned about the 25% of the non-resident owners who don't get notified. Really, and they have waited for you to address this? My guess they never requested the OP's assistance in protecting them. And if this was such a big problem why haven't they involved themselves? My guess they are all big boys and girls and can speak up for themselves.

AT THE MEETING THE OP HAS ATTENDED HOW MANY OWNERS OUT OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF OWNERS WERE IN ATTENDANCE??? SIMPLE QUESTION AND IT DOES SERVE A PURPOSE IN KNOWING THE ANSWER.

Like most properties my guess the attendance at meetings on this property is low. When asked, the OP can only provide a vague repsonse to a rather simple question. "I attend the meetings I can." No real answer because that doesn't suit their view.

I have lived here for _____ years there are _____ number of meetings per year comiong to a total of ______ meetings of those I have been present at _______.

But now because the OP can't seem to figure out why such questions are relevant they provide non-answers and then resort to name calling because they now have righteous indignation! How dare you question someone whose 9-5 job is regulatory controls! Perhaps the OP has allowed their day time job to become a lifetime's obsession????? Weeding out those who bend rules. What a noble undertaking!

Even in the reponse from the Board President, this OP provided, they suggest IF the OP attended the meetings they would be aware the members voted to approve the distribution of notices in mailboxes. Must have been a meeting the OP couldn't make......... My guess there have been plenty of them.

And now the OP questions whether these violations they have discovered bring into question as to the Board's ability to be "trusted to handle anything." Now that's a stretch....... They don't notify owners about meeting to my satisfaction therefore what can they possibly do right?

My guess there is lot more to this situation they has been provided. My guess the OP will never seek a Board position and IF they did would never get elected. My guess more than likely the OP will sit by and second guess the actions of the Board while continuing to "attend those meetings I can make". How do you ever serve on a Board when you don't have the ability to attend meetings????

And in most cases when simple minds come up against thoughts they can't process or questions they can't answer it rattles their world to the point they resort to insults and namecalling. Yes, not all that hard to read between these lines............

Isn't it amazing how in just a few days the tone of the OP has changed?

11/27: The OP suggests the Board's failure to notice the owners as they see fit is unacceptable. And this might become a "dealbreaker" whatever that means.

Then we have bits of an exchange in which the OP now has claimed to have made their lawyer aware of accusations and further response it is threatened will be through the lawyer.

Then the OP makes claim they now plan to seek a position on the Board because of the belief the current Board can't be trusted to handle anything.

And now just 2 1/2 days later we are to believe the OP and President have shared extended conversations and plan to walk off into the future hand in hand for the common benefit of their HOA.

Now that's a true conversion.

GOD IS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just have to wonder if the OP provided the Board President, other Board members and property owners with the link to this thread?????

Could they be "trusted" to do that?