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JC3
Posts: 290
Posted:
How do you handle gang damage, and how quickly? A police report was made on the paint.

We have a neighborhood park with a wood sign, two nice picnic tables on a concrete pad, a grill, and a play area for little kids--sandbox, slide/climbing thingy. Gang related grafitti painted on the sign a few days ago and on the pad has not yet been covered over. Today there are gouges in the rims of the tables.

WilliamT (Arizona)
Posts: 489
Posted:
Posted By JC3 on 02/19/2007 9:57 AM

How do you handle gang damage, and how quickly? A police report was made on the paint.

We have a neighborhood park with a wood sign, two nice picnic tables on a concrete pad, a grill, and a play area for little kids--sandbox, slide/climbing thingy. Gang related grafitti painted on the sign a few days ago and on the pad has not yet been covered over. Today there are gouges in the rims of the tables.



Make police reports and take photos of each incident. Ask the police to make more frequent patrols.

Because it is gang related, the police should be more active to get them out of the area. Get the police to help you get a block watch program started. Have a community meeting with the police.

Have some neighbors watch from a distance to see what time of night the activity takes place, and call the police when the gangs are gathering there. They can be run off using the loitering laws of your state.

RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
I think you need to remove or paint over the grafitti as soon as possible (after taking photos, hand having the police and your insurance company examine it). Leaving it there will attract more grafitti.

It's a shame that such destruction of other people's property has become so common. You may have to consider fencing the area or even eliminating some of the features.

Ron
SC
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Do you have any board members that reside within 300ft of the park that have also have a network router in their home? Setup a wireless IP camera so that you can monitor and auto-record their activities. IP cams are getting cheaper all the time and please no speeches on privacy issues. Everyone in the U.S. gets their picture taken on average, about 60 times per day which in public. I have two of them and they work great.
RonaldW (South Carolina)
Posts: 901
Posted:
Posted By MikeS1 on 02/20/2007 6:11 AM

Do you have any board members that reside within 300ft of the park that have also have a network router in their home? Setup a wireless IP camera .............


Yep, just be sure you clear it with the ACC first! (insert wink smiley here)

Seriously, a security system may be necessary but you may want to have a pro install it and include a video tape machine. You can give the tape to the police.

I don't think an HOA is going to have much luck controlling gangs, the police are having a difficult enough time with it. Making the area less attractive to gangs and gang members may be your best bet.

Ron
SC
JM2 (Oregon)
Posts: 439
Posted:
Hi all:

Setting up a security system would be a good idea; whether it's tape or computer (the computer might be a better choice). One thing as a caution: check to be sure whether your state will allow taping of cars and/or pedestrians on public sidewalks (if there are any there). We were going to set up a system but found that the law here would not allow us to set it up if it viewed the public street. You should be able to position so that it only gets your common area.

Also, consider if the use of a fake camera, mounted visibly but high enough to be out of reach, might be a cheaper solution; that plus a couple of signs might do the trick for a lot less money.
DanC (Colorado)
Posts: 6
Posted:
I had a similar issue when I was President of an HOA in a townhome community in Colorado Springs. This is a tough problem.

1. You MUST involve the police. Take photos of everything and file reports. Don't remove or alter anything until the officer working on your case clears you to do so.

2. Don't count on your community for help. While you may have a few allies, most homeowners will simply be too afraid to even publicly complain about graffiti or other vandalism. I wound up as the only public champion of the cause and was in constant fear of being assaulted. Young hoodlums tend to watch a lot of television and have no understanding of the long term implications of severe bodily injury or jail and will think little of stabbing someone. I'm in good physical shape, but am not willing to smash my living room fist-fighting with someone who fights daily as a way of life.

I took courses in combat pistol shooting and obtained a concealed carry permit. I was able to successfully avoid every violent confrontation without ever having to draw, except one. Fortunately that too didn't require me firing, but did prevent a hoodlum from pushing his way through my front door and assaulting me in my own living room.

3. Again, keep the police involved. They were helpful in advising me to get a restraining order against the above mentioned hoodlum.

4. The surveillance cameras are a good idea, if you can afford them. A feeble system can be constructed using www.x10.com, but better systems are available from smarthome.com and even Sam's club. I have some of these devices myself, but be sure to check with local laws. For example, in Colorado it is unlawful to record a conversation that you are not personally participating in. Therefore, these surveillance cameras can't record sound.

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